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Posts by azor
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Cofty asked to define respect. Giordano gave the dictionaries definition. Another definition is "the condition of being esteemed or honored." I agree with most posters here that these beliefs do not deserve respect. However to often it seems that beliefs are tied in with the person that holds the belief.
If we truly respected the beliefs that jws hold i contend that we would still be in the cult. I'm trying to highlight the distinction between a belief and a person. Hoping this thread might help. Beliefs are not people. Nice is different than kind. Not respecting something does not equate to disrespecting it. Lack of belief in something or someone is not another type of belief. It is a lack of belief.
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What say you.
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Wildfires in the Paradise. Will there be any?
by James Mixon inthe wildfires in san gabriel today is in my back yard.
we are next to be evacuated if the .
wind shift.
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My mom lives near there. Are you ok?
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Rational1 you are right you don't have to subject yourself to it. But what about the children?
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What say you?
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Happy Father's Day
by azor injust wanted to say happy father's day to all the father's and grandfather's here.
the reason i left was for my young children and i know i'm not the only one here.
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My boy would love that.
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Happy Father's Day
by azor injust wanted to say happy father's day to all the father's and grandfather's here.
the reason i left was for my young children and i know i'm not the only one here.
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Just wanted to say happy Father's day to all the father's and grandfather's here. The reason I left was for my young children and I know I'm not the only one here.
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Introduction - Any Believers?
by Believer ini’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.
i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.
i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.
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An example of the merits of ridiculing strongly entrenched belief systems. Google "How Superman defeated the KKK." When this ridicule took place the KKK numbered in the tens of thousands in the U.S. with numerous members in high political offices including the presidential cabinet. Once there ridiculous beliefs were exposed for all to see it began to fall apart.
Faith and belief are not virtues. They are not sacred cows. They deserve derision, public mockery, and humiliation. What happened this last weekend is due to a belief system.
It's high time that our culture and civilization for its own survival deride the strongly entrenched beliefs of all. We can have a discussion and respect each other as human beings but beliefs are another thing entirely.
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Introduction - Any Believers?
by Believer ini’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.
i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.
i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.
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Believer in your response you stated that you don't have a problem with critiques and that you believe they can be made with mutual respect and not ridicule.
Unfortunately criticizing god or gods to many is ridicule of the worst kind "blasphemy". In Shanghai today people are in jail for the high crime of being critical of others beliefs.
People not beliefs merit respect. I forget who said the following, I think it was Hitch - "I respect you to much as a human being too respect your beliefs. "
I say let the ridicule fly. If ones beliefs rest on solid ground they have nothing to worry about. It's amazing to me the sensitivity that often accompanies theism. It reminds me all to well of jwism. Another example of how I came to my lack of belief in search of truth.
I'm an atheist in the sense that I'm an athorist. We shouldn't even need to have a name for it. It is the opposite of belief, or lack thereof.