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  REFUSING a blood transfusion because of the fear of being shunned. Any experiences?

  by EdenOne in

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  i was wondering if someone here has a personal story, or witnessed one in first hand, when someone refused to take a blood transfusion and what role the threat of disfellowshipment and shunning played in it (versus a more genuine fear of displeasing jehovah).

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  if you do, i would like to know about it.. eden.

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  I almost lost my son. My wife and I were all in true believers. Thankfully the law stepped in. Leukemia

  We also have friends that we tried to warn months ago when we first woke up who did the same thing at the same hospital. They just got out of the icu and will be in the hospital for at least another month. I believe one of the parents may have refused blood due to shunning knowing the law would step in. Not realizing what that meant with social workers visits. I can provide more info later if you like.
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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  I would not voluntarily vote for Carson or Chomsky. If you put a gun to my head and I had to choose or get my head blown off I'd vote for Carson to. Chomsky would let millions of Americans die and claim we deserved it for our past atrocities.
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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  azor

  You you quote Chomsky and Nietsche the ultimate regressive leftists. Maybe we should move this debate to another post.

  New atheism & progressivism(regressive left)
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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  azor

  To claim that jws are empiricists is utterly ridiculous. That tells me you don't know what empiricism is. Falsifiable evidence.

  You quote Nietsche. A premier example of regressive liberalism. The man who equates the accidental killing of innocents with intentional killing of them. If the world listened to that idiot we would be living in an apocalyptic world or one ruled by caliphate.
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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  Panpsychism more interesting than a 800 page book on how the murder rate is down. I can't imagine what type of grades you received on your book reports. Your summary is atrocious.

  I know plenty of young adults that prefer reading comic books and mythology as well. Panpsycism strikes me as in the same family as comic books. I would not be voicing this had it not been for your original slam on the authors made by you.

  Just make your recommendation and let it be. What a prick.

  Are you gonna run away now or do you need some more from several others here. I cant stand arrogant pricks like you. Come on a forum like this and spew their bs and turn and run when it gets to hot.
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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  You don't have to be an a**hole about it. When you are burned as many ex fill in the blank belivers have been by belief without evidence that is the natural place to go.

  I require empirical evidence in order to believe. I believe everyone should do the same. To do otherwise in my opinion leads back to the same place we all started at. In a cult that claims to have revealed truth. What makes belief without evidence in any of the found or revealed truths any different than the other. Nothing. Just some man's opinion.

  I for one will not waste another moment of my life in that again. I almost lost to much the first time and I'll be dammed if I do it again.
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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  Slimboyfat the OP asked for book recommendations. You came on here slamming recommendations made by others and then made your own. That is an a**hole move. If that's what your about I have no inretest in your recommendations and doubt others will either.

  And here I thought it was a good thing you were back. If this is how you comport yourself I wonder if it might be better for you to run off in another tantrum.

  Now can we get back to the book recommendations?
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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  azor

  Slimboyfat are you a regressive liberal?
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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  azor

  I am listening to the "better angels of our nature" again as it is data heavy in parts. I think everyone should read/listen to this book. A tremendous accounting of humanities progress through millenia.

  How do we know who we are without knowing where and who we came from.
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  If anyone who decides to have a meetup around LA/Orange County in southern Ca!!!

  by Olivia Wilde in

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  2. experiences

  if anyone is up for a meetup in a public place anytime soon around southern california let me know.

  i am not a good organizer of these things but if anyone wants to organize a meetup i am all for it, it can be near disneyland or surroundings!

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  azor

  Great I'll set it for 11 and let you all know when it's set up. If anyone else would like to join just let me know by Sunday the 20th at noon.