Posts by azor

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

azor

Different President different time. He's a populist. He craves being loved. The right did not regain power by cooperation. They did so by gathering and galvanizing those that agreed with them.

As much as I want the two sides to cooperate that is a pipe dream at this point in time. Trying to do that will ensure the left's demise.

The big question is who can get more states. It appears that there are more people on the left than in the right. The issue is more about demographics then anything else. I'm beginning to think that the only way to regain a foothold in the direction of this country is to move where the need is greater. Maybe we need to start voting with our feet.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

azor

I posted earlier that their was a difference between your posts and others that have posted similar things to yours. I'm not requesting back up I'm just mentioning them due to their recent posts similar to mine.

I didn't state "ALL". I stated that you are equating the 2.

This was day one of his Presidency and it was a shot across the bow. You are comparing this to other marches which were very different. Different time. Now defense is being played. Much harder. Trying to defend laws rather than enact them.

What do you propose? Standing idly by while the laws on the books get circumvented by executive order. Taking us back to the 50's and then start over on offense. I say the hell with that.

The right didn't get back in power by demonizing and equating the extreme elements on their side. They created a big tent. Even for the alt right mitigating their extremes by focusing on what they had in common and promoting their fear.

They get it. Emotion is where it's at. I guess an advantage of their religiosity.

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Is the Bible from Men, NOT God?

by the-Question in

for those claiming that- how much thought or research have you done?.

objective or non-objective?.

ever read the other books claiming to be from god?

azor

Linguistics, similar previous mythologies, archeology, among many other fields of study show conclusively that the Bible is man made.

Each of the ones mentioned above has gone through multiple peer reviewed processes.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

azor

Simon it's how you continue to equate this march with the extremes that do those things. Painting with a broad brush. Mentioning on the same post about those on the left that don't think like them show black and white thinking. This is black and white thinking in itself.

Bohm, Flipper, Mrs. Flipper, and I have not done this in our posts.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

azor

Simon read your last comment if your not for them your a Nazi or a hater. There are many more where you paint with a broad brush. I wonder if you read your own words.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

azor

Simon can you say pot calling the kettle black. You have throughout this post and others like it demonstrated black and white thinking. Most who agree with me have not used the language you just tried to put on us. Can you say alternate facts.

Painting groups with a broad brush based on the worst minority in the group. Demonizing the group in the process.

Love Unite - I'm not talking about the original question. Go back and read the comments from Simon and others, and see how visceral some of the comparisons and demonizations are.

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Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson

by azor in

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friends

listening to 2 of my current favorite thinkers debate/discussion.

i've been looking forward to this since i found out about it a month ago.

hope some of you get a chance to listen.

azor

Then don't listen when they do.

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Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson

by azor in

jw
friends

listening to 2 of my current favorite thinkers debate/discussion.

i've been looking forward to this since i found out about it a month ago.

hope some of you get a chance to listen.

azor

I think Peterson might be on to something with evolutionary archetypal mythology as an undercurrent of human development. I was hoping that was what Harris and him would cover.

It appears to me as part of his study into the evil in human nature that he has become a man that sees malice where it doesn't exist. He truly fears the naturalistic/materialistic worldview, and seems to see demons around every corner. Heavily influenced by Nietzsche, Solzhenitsyn, and Hume.

Hopefully they will have another podcast and get into a discussion that moves beyond the definition of truth.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

azor

Flipper I think it's more about people being unwilling or unable to admit their wrong. Apparently there is no middle ground on this subject. It is pretty apparent who the unhinged ones are on this topic. Post after post of one side demonising hundreds of thousands of people, the other admitting to errors yet supporting the majority of those exercising their right to freedom of speech and assembly.

I've said it before and I'll say it again the false equivalency has been astonishing. All to hold ones ground. I think it's shameful.

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Morality Without Deity

by cofty in

one of the most persistent arguments for belief in god centres on the necessity of an ultimate law-giver and epitome of goodness.. a softer version is seen in the genuine concern that a loss of faith will result in a corresponding loss of a moral compass - a more strident argument links the existence of good and evil with proof of the reality of god.

it is often asserted that without god, moral decisions degenerate to nothing more than personal preferences and the victory of "might is right".. i want to succinctly lay out my response as an atheist, and show that a supreme being is not required for objective morality.. it is helpful to distinguish between absolute morality, objective morality and subjective morality.

christian apologists frequently conflate the first two, and secular debaters often fail to point out the difference.. theists who disagree on everything else, are unanimous that god is perfectly good.

azor

Great post Cofty. I couldn't agree with you more. And for those who haven't read the "moral landscape" should have it at the top of their reading list for 2017. Such a well laid out book and argument.