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  Are most people just plain stupid?

  by logansrun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what an audacious question!

  " wow, bradley -- how could you stoop to such levels?

  do you consider most people as simple sleepwalkers through life not paying much attention to reason, logic, science, history and a desire to understand?

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  greatteacher

  Stacy,
  
  Good, you know what a fact is because when you stated that Brad was "confusing facts and opinions", I wasn't sure. He was not.
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  The Happiest place on earth...Kingdom Hall

  by integ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was invited to attend the latest visit from the circuit overseer last week.

  what timely admonishment.

  he brought out how we should not tire out in the race for life.

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  Dubs are also the happiest people on earth! So, they're the happiest people hangin' out at the happiest place, but they all seem so bored and angry all the time; all that gossiping and back stabbing.
  
  
  Sorry you had to sit through that!
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  Losing the Truth in Bible Translations?

  by ApagaLaLuz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's something i wanted to throw out for debate.

  there is a line in a smashing pumpkins song that says "something always gets lost in the translation.

  " how true of a translation of the bible do you think you can find?

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  Okay, you're right, but I think the point I was making is that if you don't have an original manuscript of the NT, it doesn't really matter whether the copies of the copies of the copies are translated correctly in whatever language because we don't really know what the orginal NT said. And to base ones entire life on it, is lunacy.
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  Are most people just plain stupid?

  by logansrun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what an audacious question!

  " wow, bradley -- how could you stoop to such levels?

  do you consider most people as simple sleepwalkers through life not paying much attention to reason, logic, science, history and a desire to understand?

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  greatteacher

  Stacy Smith,
  
  How do you differentiate fact and opinion?
  
  Will you name one thing you find to be factual?
  
  just curious!
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  Losing the Truth in Bible Translations?

  by ApagaLaLuz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's something i wanted to throw out for debate.

  there is a line in a smashing pumpkins song that says "something always gets lost in the translation.

  " how true of a translation of the bible do you think you can find?

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  greatteacher

  Here is some information that may raise doubt in the authenticity of every NT bible translation:
  
  The verifiable manuscript evidence for the New Testament: a) is many decades later than the events described, b) is not in the Jewish language of the main figures, c) is very sparse before 400 C.E., d) has clearly been altered by later authors, e) has conflicting versions of the same books, f) represents only what the church could not destroy, f) conflicts with reasonable alternative histories, and, g) conflicts with other surviving traditions of Messianic Judaism.
  
  Of the 5,487 Greek manuscripts, no two, apart from the very tiniest fragments, are identical. Furthermore, until beyond the 7th century, there is not one Greek manuscript that contains the books of the New Testament and just those books in their present order. The Codex Sinaiticus comes close, but it also contains the Epistle of Barnabas and the Shepherd of Hermas, works rejected nowadays.
  
  2,811 of these manuscripts are in the minuscule writing. This tiny writing was only used from the 9th century onwards. 2,279 manuscripts are lectionaries and only about 30 (thirty) lectionaries date from before the 9th century. Out of desperation many claim that 5,000 Greek manuscripts from AD 800 or later count as a sort of evidence for what happened in first century Palestine.
  
  sources: The Jesus Puzzle. Did Christianity Begin with a Mythical Christ? : Challenging the Existence of an Historical Jesus by Earl Doherty
  * The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold by Acharya S
  * The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You To Read by Tim C. Leedom
  * The Jesus Mysteries : Was the "Original Jesus" a Pagan God? by Peter Gandy (Author), Timothy Freke (Author)
  * Deconstructing Jesus by Robert M. Price
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  Gosh! These Dubs Are SO Charitable!

  by Englishman in

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  2. scandals

  anyone can look up any uk congregation of jw's on the charity commissions own website.

  this is a random shot featuring one of the wolverhampton congregations:

  extract from the central register of charities maintained by the charity commission for england and wales

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  greatteacher

  Interesting information!
  We know that the WTS is not charitable and it encourages its members to not be charitable because it offers an "everlasting solution." What insane reasoning!
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  "Questions From Readers" or "Questions From Writers"?

  by logansrun in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is it just me, or does the "questions from readers" segment in the watchtower these days sound phoney?

  i know years ago they had the initials of the questioner along with their country of residence underneath their questions which seemed more, oh i don't know, realistic.

  (the things people used to ask about!

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  Ray Franz strongly implies in "Crisis" that the "questions from readers" are "questions from writers." I don't have the book with me to give you the page number.
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  Are most people just plain stupid?

  by logansrun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what an audacious question!

  " wow, bradley -- how could you stoop to such levels?

  do you consider most people as simple sleepwalkers through life not paying much attention to reason, logic, science, history and a desire to understand?

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  greatteacher

  Rationality is not better, it is.
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  245

  Are most people just plain stupid?

  by logansrun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what an audacious question!

  " wow, bradley -- how could you stoop to such levels?

  do you consider most people as simple sleepwalkers through life not paying much attention to reason, logic, science, history and a desire to understand?

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  greatteacher

  Yes, beliefs are stupid, not people.
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  Are most people just plain stupid?

  by logansrun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what an audacious question!

  " wow, bradley -- how could you stoop to such levels?

  do you consider most people as simple sleepwalkers through life not paying much attention to reason, logic, science, history and a desire to understand?

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  greatteacher

  I agree that we should kill this, but I feel that there is nothing wrong with using the word stupid. I mean some believers say that I'm going to burn in hell forever, what's wrong with calling them stupid? In comparison it's not as bad, is it?