Posts by Heisenberg

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Heisenberg

It doesn't matter if Catholics, Anglicans, Mormons or JWs have printed or translated more bibles than anyone else. Most so called Christians believe that they will go to heaven... some believe they will live on earth forever. Both require belief in a God that created humans to suffer and die.

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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?

by Heisenberg in

they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.

i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.

they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?

Heisenberg

Posted by ttdtt

I have free will not to jump into pits of molten lava. It is an easy choice for me to avoid doing that.

Does this mean that animals also have free will? I am sure that an animal will also avoid jumping into the same pit of molten lava. It is a combination of instinct and learned behavior.

The fact that you can make a choice does not mean that you have free will as defined by religious scholars. We are only free to make decisions with what is in our mind. This is a combination of genetics and environment. Everything that happened up to the point of our birth is responsible for who we are. We did not choose to learn that it is dangerous to fall into a pit of molten lava. Someone else put this into our mind and we act based on that information.

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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?

by Heisenberg in

they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.

i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.

they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?

Heisenberg

For the record, I do not believe in free will.

To be honest, I hope I am wrong. I hope that God does exist. Even if it is the God of the Old Testament... at least there is a tiny amount of hope there that we are not alone and maybe there is an afterlife on earth or in heaven... or another planet. Someone to save us from ourselves. Unfortunately, it is evident that we are alone on this pale blue dot and that one day will come when we will not exist... for eternity.

Posted by Fisherman

Deep in my heart, I just know that he [God] is innocent..

It doesn't matter how deep it is in your heart. Your belief in something does not make it the truth. We all need to look at the facts not our own personal experiences.

Posted by James Brown

In my opinion a loving creator would and did give man free will.

And that is the whole problem with opinions. They are based on how we see the world. This depends on where we were born, how we were treated, what we were taught and everything else that happened before we had that opinion.

Do you think someone born into a Hindu family in India would have the same choices in life as someone born in Italy? Would they both be taught about the Abrahamic God? When does the person born in India get to get to exercise their free will so they can put their faith in Jesus?

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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy

by cofty in

i intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.

there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.

there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.

Heisenberg

Posted by average joe

In my opinion there is no way the human body came about by randomness or chance.

Does this mean that you believe in a creator? In the bible? If so, why did God create us in way that our bodies get sick and die?

Do you think it is strange that humans resemble chimpanzees as much as they do? If humans are God's special creation, why aren't we totally unique? We should not be part of the animal kingdom. We should not be mammals.

I find it puzzling that God would create Adam out of dust... apparently from scratch... but he would resemble one of his previous creations. Why?!

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Just a smile? Oh dear...Disney move over...

by stuckinarut2 in

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vrazejqhrui

Heisenberg

I am amazed that they are still creating these "music videos". The JWs have become what we would once loathe. We would once belittle any churches or religious groups that would not take spiritual matters seriously. For example, singing popular style songs in church. Next thing they will introduce is playing sports at the Kingdom Hall!!

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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?

by Heisenberg in

they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.

i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.

they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?

Heisenberg

They say ignorance is bliss...

Well, I wish that God did not give Adam free will. I am OK to not have free will if it means I will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.

It has been explained that free will is a gift from God. They say 'Who would want to live life like a robot?' I guess it depends on what you get in return. Would you give up free will if you could live forever and never get sick, suffer, etc? I would.

We've also been told that God gave us free will so that we would worship him because we choose to do so... not because we are forced to do it.

So this means that God's selfish desire to be worshiped by humans is the cause for all the suffering on the earth! If he was a loving creator, would he put his creation in a position that could be harmful to their future? Let's be honest... God would have known that there was a high probability his creation would sin. He did create them after all so he knew their capabilities.

Let's think as an "imperfect human". If you had the power to protect your children from harm, would you do it? If you could stop them from ever dying even though some of their freedom would be restricted, would you do it?

Why couldn't God embed a directive in us that we could never sin against him? In the same way that we cannot fly, we would not be able to do wrong in his eyes and therefore we would live forever. We could never do anything wrong.

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2034 is going to be a huge letdown for the dubs

by wha happened? in

i've seen a few postings of a possible "next date" for dubs of 2034. based on an article they published comparing the last days to the days of noah.

preaching for 120 years.

however, i noticed a little tidbit from wiki about age:.

Heisenberg

I think the 'overlapping generation' teaching may fit perfectly with the year 2034...

As an example, let's use Fred Franz as the 'first generation'. Born in 1893, he was baptized around 1913-14 and since everyone back then was anointed he fits into the 'first generation'. He died in 1992.

The 'second generation' would have to include those who were anointed before 1992. Post 1935, I don't know of many who realized they were anointed at a young age so you would need to assume that the second generation would have been around 40 years old in 1992. Fast forward to 2034... the second generation would be 82.

So the 120 years Noah teaching and the overlapping generation teaching both seem to point to the same time. Sounds like a conspiracy.

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Is ignorance a choice for Jehovah's Witnesses in todays information age?

by Watchtower-Free in

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Heisenberg

I chose to say that

No, you think you did.. but you didn't. What generates thoughts in your mind?

Do you think you have control of what your brain is processing? If that is the case, people could just will themselves better when they are suffering depression. External factors beyond our control have resulted in causal events that impact you daily. From your birth onwards, every event you experience and decision you make is the result of a previous event... most of these outside of your control or even influence.

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Is ignorance a choice for Jehovah's Witnesses in todays information age?

by Watchtower-Free in

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Heisenberg

There is no such thing as choice. It is an illusion.

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JW Blood Doctrine Constitutes Idolatry

by TTATTelder in

if you sacrifice your life for something - that is devotion to the highest degree and can in certain context constitute worship.. .

as has been discussed many times on this forum, the blood doctrine of being willing to sacrifice life to honor a symbol of life (blood) is ludicrous (see this excellent thread by cofty http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/273265/my-explanation-why-they-got-wrong-about-blood-using-only-nwt?page=1).

it is also idolatry.... .

Heisenberg

If you sacrifice your life for something - that is devotion to the highest degree and can in certain context constitute worship.

So if you sacrifice your life for your child, does that mean you are worshiping your child? No reasonable person would say you were worshiping your child. People would think you did it for love.

Many people sacrifice their life for a belief or a cause that they feel strongly about. Does their determination to die for such a belief mean they are worshiping it?

If you are answering yes to the above questions, you seem to have the wrong definition for worship.