imo - the bible's contents and it's effect on women: mark 13: 14 (let the reader use discernment) .
is every expression contained in the bible the thought and command of god?
is the bible, in it's entirety, the 'word of god?
Our old PO tell me that women weren't really anointed, that it was misapplied doctrine from the evil haughty Maria Russell. He backed his argument by sayings it was from the Gospel of Thomas (saying 114) and not found in the Bible.
And I thought it couldn't get worse! Incredible!
imo - who is the evil slave and how we can tell?.
matthew 7: 15 ~ 23 'by their fruits you will recognise them.'.
it's apparent by their conduct, that after waiting 35 years and seeing 1914 fail to bring armageddon, the slave that was faithful turned evil.
IMO - WHO IS THE EVIL SLAVE AND HOW WE CAN TELL?
Matthew 7: 15 ~ 23 'By their fruits you will recognise them.'
It's apparent by their conduct, that after waiting 35 years and seeing 1914 fail to bring Armageddon, the Slave that WAS faithful turned Evil. And it has been this Evil Slave that has been 'lording it over' and 'beating' God's people ever since!
Their conduct, those leaders, past and present of the Governing Body clearly show they are the Unfaithful/Evil Slave in that they have been consistantly 'beating' Jesus congregation. The beating the Evil Slave Class has been giving to both their 'fellow slaves' and the 'menservants and maidsevants' (since Russell's passing, perhaps earier) comes in the form of dealing with the congregation in an very oppressive, heavy handed way, conditioning everyone to be afraid, causing them to constantly gauge themselves against the 'Organizationally Correct' view thus making them restrained in their thinking, their speech and their behavior.
The Unfaithul Slave is constantly manipulating and controling God's people with Guilt and Fear while deliberately confusing their thinking with Self Doubt, forcing them to live unnessasarily small lives purely based on the Governing Body's own pridefull reasoning. They also have taken the individuality of everyone away, leaving them only as empty shells of the persons they once were. They also see principles in the Bible that aren't there then teach and mandate them as Divine Truths and Commands.
Please consider these scriptures;
Luke 12: 45 and 46, [45] ‘But if ever that slave should say in his heart, 'My master delays coming,' (no Armageddon in 1914) and should start to beat the menservants and the maidservants, (other sheep) and to eat and drink and get drunk, (UN-NGO and other wrong behavior) [46] the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting [him] and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones' (apostates).
Matthew 24: 48 ~ 51 describes the Evil Slave as beating '...his FELLOW SLAVES' (the other Anointed).
Jesus warned us multiple times through illustrations, His returning would MUCH LONGER than His apostles or we would think.
Mark 13: 35, 'Therefore keep on the watch, for you do not know when the master of the house is coming, whether late in the day or at midnight or at cockcrowing OR at EARLY IN THE MORNING.'
Matthew 24: 44, 'On this account you too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour YOU DO NOT THINK TO BE IT, the Son of man is coming.'
Matthew 25: 5, 'While the bridegroom was DELAYING, they all nodded and went to sleep.’
Matthew 25: 19, 'After A LONG TIME the master of those slaves came and SETTLED ACCOUNTS with them.'
When the Master arrives at Armageddon to settle accounts, it will not go well for those leading the Governing Body and to a lesser degree for those assisting them.
Matthew 25: 28 and 30,[28] 'Therefore take away the talent from him and give it to him that has the ten talents...[30] And throw the good-for-nothing slave out into darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.'
Matthew 24: 50 and 51, [50] 'the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, [51] and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.'
Notice the three catagories and the distinctions Jesus made with regards to punishing the Evil Slave and its supporters: Luke 12: 46 ~ 48
THE EVIL SLAVE ~ 46 '...he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones.'
THE UNDERSTANDING SLAVE ~ 47 'Then that slave that understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do in line with his will will be beaten with many strokes.'
THE NOT UNDERSTANDING SLAVE ~ 48 'But the one that did not understand and so did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few...'
Question, when God completely destroys religion, WHO among us will be asking this???
Matthew 7: 21 ~ 23, [21] 'Not everyone saying to me, Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of the HEAVENS, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the the heavens will. [22]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name? [23] And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you! Get away from me you workers of lawlessness!'
This guilt extends far beyond the Governing Body, it is shared by all those men,women AND children who imitate the their harsh and unloving example while unquestioningly advancing their views and policies.
Please know that I am not saying every member of the GB is evil. I believe there are those slaves that do not understand their error as well as good people like Nicodemus mixed in. My personal opinion is, just as the Faithful Slave is a 'class' so is the Evil Slave...and even those like Nicodemus, I now believe are a class, and are probably the source of anything good coming from the WTS.
As for the GB being 'Spirit Directed' the question is to what degree and how often?? AND why would Jesus repeatedly stress and WARN His followers about His return, His arrival, if they were ALWAYS being guided in the correct way they should go???
Here is a related speculative question:
What if the Three Slaves who were given the Talents of Silver represented Three Time Periods? (Matthew 25: 14 ~ 30)
The First Slave representing the first century slave before the apostacy,
the Second Slave representing those slaves active during the apostacy and
the Third Slave representing those leading Christ's congregation during the Last Days?
Just a thought, it makes sense to me. Especialy when we consider the Organization's record of results! Think about it, after having their assignment for 131 years, less than 1/10th of 1% of the earth's 6.5 billion people have been convinced to accept Jehovah through His Son. With most of this time passing during the era of modern earthwide communication makes their results all the more disgraceful!
My point here is, the performance record for the job the so-called Faithful and Discreet Slave has done is so abysmally poor, they are truly 'returning to the Master what is His, WITHOUT INTEREST!!!'
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Feel free to disagree. I'm just sharing what I've come to believe.
imo - the bible's contents and it's effect on women: mark 13: 14 (let the reader use discernment) .
is every expression contained in the bible the thought and command of god?
is the bible, in it's entirety, the 'word of god?
IMO - THE BIBLE'S CONTENTS AND IT'S EFFECT ON WOMEN:
Mark 13: 14 (let the reader use discernment)Is every expression contained in the bible the thought and command of God? Is the bible, in it's entirety, the 'Word of God?' Or does the bible contain the word of God along with human reasoning?
For instance, is Proverbs 31: 6 and 7 a 'Bible Principal' or is it just the 'opinion' of King Lemuel's mother? When reading Deuteronomy 24: 1 ~ 4 it appears to be God's law though Moses, does it not? Yet, when we read Matthew 19: 7 ~ 9 Jesus makes it clear that on the matter of divorce Moses took it upon himself to make law...it was not from Jehovah. Would any Israelite who disagreed with Moses law on divorce have been wrong? Or was Moses wrong in making his own law to begin with?
Now, concerning the writings of the apostle Paul, his personal opinions and imposed traditions are intertwined throughout his writings.
Here are some important examples: 1 Corinthians 11: 4 ~ 16 (pay special note to verses 14 and 16) also chapter 14: 34 and 35, 1 Timothy 2: 9 ~12,
Remember, before he was a Christian, Paul was a Zealot for Judaism, a man raised in a life of Traditions and Rules. Galatians 1: 13 and 14. His writings (more than those of Moses) shows he had no problem imposing his personal views and traditions on the congregation, especialy the women.
Should we not use our discernment and be discriminating as to what we accept as from Christ through Paul or should we just assume it is ALL from Christ?
Remember Pauls coversion? He went almost overnight from being and unbalanced zealot Jew to being a Christian...an unbalanced zealot Christian ( 2 Corinthians 11: 16 ~ 23 especialy note verses 17 and 23 ) who ultimately caused his own imprisionment and pre-mature death by ignoring TWO Divine Warnings about his going to Jerusalem. Acts 21: 4, 10 ~ 13.
Anointed Women are, or will be, 'Ruling as Kings' in heaven, but today on earth, can only serve refreshments to 'hard working brothers’ thanks to Paul and those who support his erroneous reasonings.
So, with the modern day Governing Body agreeing with Christendom, insisting that Paul's opinions and traditions are Divine Law our women have been unjustly oppressed in life and especialy within the congregation. This must change!
Now does all this mean Jehovah did not inspire/motivate the bible to be writen and preserved? No.
Does inspiration alone elevate ALL the contents of the bible to the level of Divine Law? No...As I hope I have just shown.
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Feel free to disagree. I'm just sharing what I've come to personally believe.
all was going well......i had prepared some pages for my khs kids regarding 4 'forces' and they got a nice little science lesson.
they spent morning filling in the blanks, wordfinds, connect the dots and coloring pages.
parents of course were scribbling away at their notebooks.. fast forward to the afternoon......young people presentations..... well instead of bobble head bobbing in a sea of unison......there was a quiet but audible snickering going on that continued throughout the entire presentations....in my section.. turns out the generation that was the test subjects of the ypa v1 ( i was 17), thought it was all so funny and badly scripted.
Well instead of bobble head bobbing in a sea of unison......there was a quiet but audible snickering going on that continued throughout the entire presentations....in my section.
Several families (enough to cause heads turning from other sections across the meeting hall) got up at the start of the "In the Congregation Talk" turns out they had pre planned to split at the anti college rhetoric.
When the speaker mentioned 'living a double life" the looks and eye rolling began to go full tilt.
When the speaker got to the words internet pornography other mothers were quick to gather their kids, disgusted looks on their face for such a topic being thrusted on them unexpectedly.......
I'm glad to hear the Light is getting Brighter in people's minds.
Hopefully the time will come soon when people realise that God doesn't require them to surrender their thinking ability to be close to Him.
the jw idea of 'paradise earth' seems to be full of holes.
will babies of baptized jws also be in the new system?
if not, how could the child's parents consider it 'paradise' without their children?
The JW idea of 'Paradise Earth' seems to be full of holes. Will babies of baptized JWs also be in the New System? If not, how could the child's parents consider it 'paradise' without their children? If there are babies there, will they continue to mature into adults.....& to what age? Will young adult couples in their 20s be able to procreate in Paradise Earth? If not, won't they be denied the joy of having children of their own? Will babies who died in ages past be resurrected as babies or adults?? Given the GBs apparent disdain for children, I expect they'll soon institute a 'No Children' policy regading Paradise Earth. Somehow this so-called Paradise Earth idea makes no sense to me.
Do yourself a big favor, DON'T mix bible teaching with GB speculation. The GB doesn't have any idea how life will be in the kingdom, yet they will will spout off as "experts." Jesus taught us to pray for the Kingdom to come on the EARTH as it is in the heavens. Just focus on that reality and let the rest be revealed by Him when we're IN the Kingdom.
i have observed that jehovah god is far from the loving father he portrays himself to be.
stifling my sex drive, and then exploiting it by using it to get me into a cult, hardly qualifies god as being loving.
and neither does continuing to stifle the sex drive after i am trying to leave the cult and quite likely using the hounders to reclaim me as their slave.. i found another web site that any theist should urgently look up before looking into any religion, whether jehovah's witnesses or any other "christian" or islam religion.
If intellectualy and emotionaly we're are made in God's image, He being a LARGER version of ourselves, we can use ourselves as a basis for comparison with a view of understanding God's limitations better. Although we can't hold to law perfectly we can make better or worse decisions, we can be more or less loving, caring, sensitive and fair. We can also be more or less proud or humble. IMO, God can too.
Also, I've come to believe the culture that existed around Him in Heaven was built on un-questioning obediance. And became an oppressively narrow culture of 'YES' similar to what the Witnesses have with the Organization. Critical thinking strongly discouraged by the majority around God with anyone one lawfully challenging God's thinking or decisions or policies on anything ostracized and marked.
IF this was the case, over time what would this do to Him? What would be the end result in His attitude and actions with everyone always saying 'yes' and few if any speaking their true thoughts and feelings of their disagreement about His positions?
Perhaps, as we often have done with the WTO, many angels just continualy supressed their disagreements and unhappy feelings with God until walking out in lawless rebellion seemed better than staying and speaking up?
i have observed that jehovah god is far from the loving father he portrays himself to be.
stifling my sex drive, and then exploiting it by using it to get me into a cult, hardly qualifies god as being loving.
and neither does continuing to stifle the sex drive after i am trying to leave the cult and quite likely using the hounders to reclaim me as their slave.. i found another web site that any theist should urgently look up before looking into any religion, whether jehovah's witnesses or any other "christian" or islam religion.
However, before joining, ask yourself this. Would you want to live forever on a "paradise" Earth, in the New Dark Ages, that is presided by some Almighty Baghead like God?Interesting perspective.
I must say though, at the end of the day, whatever pros and cons are in place regarding worshipping God, that one third, ONE-THIRD of the angels opted out.
I could only surmise many had your same pessimistic view of God, and, of course, blamed God for their own unhappiness.
I have to wonder what effort the One Third made to address their greivences or did they just walk out rather than try?
With changes in thinking the Dark Ages eventualy ENDED.
i have observed that jehovah god is far from the loving father he portrays himself to be.
stifling my sex drive, and then exploiting it by using it to get me into a cult, hardly qualifies god as being loving.
and neither does continuing to stifle the sex drive after i am trying to leave the cult and quite likely using the hounders to reclaim me as their slave.. i found another web site that any theist should urgently look up before looking into any religion, whether jehovah's witnesses or any other "christian" or islam religion.
Over time its become clear to me that we all have 'higher' expectations of God than we should.
Why do we believe He can NEVER make a poor decision or even a disasterous one? He's "GOD" right? So its not supposed to happen.
Since we are in His image don't we all make poor choices from time to time? I'm not talking about breaking God's laws/sin. I'm mean we should have known better and handled things differantly for a better outcome but didn't. Do we ever get an attitude with someone and behave badly? Have we ever shown favoritism to someone at the expence of others? ...God has.
I've come to believe that perfection and even being GOD doesn't guarantee good judgement or consistantly 'loving' behavior. He can be counted on to keep His word and live within His own laws though. And His remorse after the Flood shows ( like us ) a desire and willingness to benefit from hindsight.
I believe He is a good person that has made some seriously bad choices.
guided by gods spirit district convention of jehovahs witnesses.
friday.
the spirit will guide you into all the truth john 16:13. am.
I forget who it was, but someone here once pointed out very astutely, how the GB has turned Christianity with all its freedom into a confining, rule driven Old Testament Religion.
The endless contrivance and emphasis of so-called "Bible Principles" to limit and control the congregation is outrageous!
I get furious every time I think of it!
guided by gods spirit district convention of jehovahs witnesses.
friday.
the spirit will guide you into all the truth john 16:13. am.
Obeying Without Question Loyaly Serving With Jehovah’s Spirit Directed Organization
The real Theme of the Assembly and once again its about following the Org. rather than enjoying the freedom Jesus gave us.
