watching a prog on ppl who are neither one sex or the other but are called intersex (wildew hermaphrodite etc) all sorts of conditions that resulted in them being both sexes in one body .it was facinating there were also a couple of men who had found that the reason they felt like women was because they had an extra x chromosone, they d spent all there lives feeling like weirdo's.. iw as wondering if anything liek this had ever come up in the org?
as a self ordained spokes person for his majesty jehovah,,i would like to dutifully carry out my comission faithfully,, so as not to incurr the wrath of his most highness.
now for those of you who do not believe me to be jehovah's self-appointed spokesman,, just ask jehovah for yourself,, if he don't answer you,, it means youv'e probably pissed him off,, and in that case he ain't gonna answer you so you'll just have to take my word for.
this is what jehovah of armies says:::: " you guys are starting to really piss me off,, who told to you can examine the bible,,, to see if this is my word,, or not,,, you have such little faith,,, you keep searching the scriptures,,, to find out if there are faults,,, well,,, you know how i feel about faith,,, and you people are not exercising that right now,,, why if i had a lightning bolt right now,,, i smite every one of yus,,, your'e a noisy,, lot!!!
Well maybe not 30 (I have daughters too). The times we live in are fast. I don't care how polite the boys are to you their desire for sex is real. I guess I would go with the graduated freedoms approach begining at 15/16.
Keep telling those JWs what you know. Don't give up. Even though they're in denial, somewhere inside they know you are right.
Your right. I can see the light in the eyes of some of them.
willyloman
Just one of many past actions I am ashamed of. But it did get me thinking and was one of the final flashes of light that turned me into a conscientious objector, no longer willing to serve the WT and dispense their sick brand of justice.
I used to lump all Elders together as the worst of the Witnesses. It's examples like yours (and Sirona's here) that helped me realize that was unfair and there is hope for them too. I guess my anger blinded me.
am i right in thinking that about 1995 the teaching on the "sheep and goats" of matt 25 changed.. i vaguely remember that pre-1995 it used to regarded that the sheep and goats were judged on how they received the preaching work.
then post-1995 it changed to that jesus would judge them when he came at armageddon.. can anyone tell if this is right.
i don't think i've made any apology for my leanings here towards jws, whilst i don't imagine most here will agree with me, i just think its good sometimes to redress the balance on this forum in a small way to let people who might be reading/lurking/ know that.. despite feeling messed up a bit in my own head about which direction i want/have to take in my own life, and despite many struggles as deep and traumatic as many have experienced here, i still hold jws as a group in the highest esteem.
i can remember what it was like to try and do the "right" thing and follow the way of the truth, it was bloody hard, and i fell down many times.
i always used to try and pick myself up dust myself down and start over again, sometimes with success for longer periods than others.
The easiest route I ever took was to just become inactive and move away, call it weakness on my part or whatever.
For me it is SELF PRESERVATION...To protect my sanity and my God given right to BE MYSELF. To be happy being me! The selflessness that the WTBTS demands is not what Jehovah is asking!
I do know that however, there were so many many good people in my congregation, and other congregations that were always there, and called on me to offer assistance.
Yes there are good people there, confused too as we all once were. They'll welcome you back but only on their terms!
...but a good support network back at the Kingdom Hall that you can call upon. friends that have never really forgotten you as you imagine they have, but those who would be so happy to see you again.
Happy to see us again??? ONLY if we conform without question to the GB and whatever their popular view of the day is!
I worship Jehovah and I'm happier AWAY from His people...They need major deprogramming!!!
"Watchtower...subculture adversely affect the mental health of those involved."
This to me is the main problem. Witnesses are constantly suppressing their true self, continually conforming to another human's standards. IMO, Unless you surrender all individual thought and will the stress will take its toll. If you stay it's a matter of 'choosing your poison.'
after reading the nov 1 1999 questions from readers about voting... http://www.jwfiles.com/vote.htm.
i'm wondering if they felt they needed to change their teachings on this because they feared legal action against them for disenfranchising their people.
This reminds me of a couple of WT's many years ago with statements that caught my attention, one said 'manipulation for any reason was wrong' and the other condemned the existing dress and grooming standards. This tells me not all the GB is on the same page...Someone is THINKING!