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  FRESH OFF THE PRESS.... 9/1/06 WT "When a Loved One Leaves Jeh."

  by schne_belly in

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  this just in for your reading displeasure......enjoy

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  What's on the cover of this magazine?
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  Divorce for emotional abuse?

  by somebodylovesme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because of a recent family situation (always a good time!

  ), i've been in a debate with a jw relative about whether the society permits divorce (without remarriage) where there is emotional abuse.

  this relative swears the literature has said that a person can leave her spouse where there is emotional abuse, but that she cannot remarry.

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  Excellent. Thanks for the perspectives -- and thanks for the literature, Blondie. I knew I could count on you!! At least if anyone in the congregation shuns this person for getting a divorce, she can point that out that article. (Note that the person I am arguing with is not the one getting the divorce ... long story ...)

  Thanks!!
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  Divorce for emotional abuse?

  by somebodylovesme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because of a recent family situation (always a good time!

  ), i've been in a debate with a jw relative about whether the society permits divorce (without remarriage) where there is emotional abuse.

  this relative swears the literature has said that a person can leave her spouse where there is emotional abuse, but that she cannot remarry.

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  Because of a recent family situation (always a good time!), I've been in a debate with a JW relative about whether the Society permits divorce (without remarriage) where there is emotional abuse. This relative swears the literature has said that a person can leave her spouse where there is emotional abuse, but that she cannot remarry. But the Watchtower's website just says this:

  God's Word does not encourage separation as a way to solve minor problems. But a wife might choose to leave her husband if (1) he stubbornly refuses to support his family, (2) he is so violent that her health and life are in danger, or (3) his extreme opposition makes it impossible for her to worship Jehovah.— 1 Corinthians 7:12, 13 .

  Can anyone point me to the literature on this? Anything on emotional abuse? (Because the above certainly makes it sound like, hey, even physical violence isn't enough -- he has to be so violent that his wife's life and health are in danger. )

  For the record, I fully support divorce where there is emotional abuse (especially in the situation about which this dispute arose). I'm just tired of the hypocrisy of this group saying different things out of each side of its mouth and I'd like to know what the "official line" is supposed to be so that I can argue intelligently about it.

  Of course, I've no idea why anyone would want to hang out in a religion that says that once her husband beats her (or emotionally torments her) and she leaves him, she is never allowed to get married or date anyone ever again. Geeez.

  Thanks in advance.

  SLM
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  the film: United 93

  by MegaDude in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good film.

  what i really respect about it is it is no hollywood version of what happened on that day.

  there is sparse use of music to try to pump up your emotions.

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  I know this is irrational ... but I have always (since before 9/11) been terrified of flying. I've only flown a couple times in my life. I have to get on an airplane in a few months ...

  I told my husband that if he wants to get me on an airplane, there is no way I can watch this firm. Just thinking about it makes me anxious. As it is, I am going to have a terrible time convincing myself not to plan for my death before stepping on that airplane ...

  *sigh*
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  Is there new light on separation/divorce?

  by somebodylovesme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a chance to thumb through the bible teach book (which was a waste of fifteen minutes of my life that i'll never get back ...) and i had a question about the section on family life.

  i believe it stated that separation was allowed in some extreme situations (not named), but that divorce was only allowed in cases of fornication..

  i was never a jw, but i'm currently watching a jw family member go through some crap in their marriage.

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  Thanks, guys -- that policy is such absolute bullshit. Which I know you know.

  grrrrrrrr!!
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  Is there new light on separation/divorce?

  by somebodylovesme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a chance to thumb through the bible teach book (which was a waste of fifteen minutes of my life that i'll never get back ...) and i had a question about the section on family life.

  i believe it stated that separation was allowed in some extreme situations (not named), but that divorce was only allowed in cases of fornication..

  i was never a jw, but i'm currently watching a jw family member go through some crap in their marriage.

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  Hi all --

  I had a chance to thumb through the Bible Teach book (which was a waste of fifteen minutes of my life that I'll never get back ...) and I had a question about the section on family life. I believe it stated that separation was allowed in some extreme situations (not named), but that divorce was only allowed in cases of fornication.

  I was never a JW, but I'm currently watching a JW family member go through some crap in their marriage. My question: does the Society "allow" divorce in cases of spousal abuse? I thought for sure they used to. But that book excluded any mention of abuse when discussing divorce.

  Thanks in advance --
  SLM
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  You mean to tell me, normal people don't get married at 17 or 18?

  by free2beme in

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  as a witness, most if not all of my friends were married by 18, with many woman married by 17. it was so normal, that when i left the religion and met all these people married in their 20's and later, that it seemed like they were starting late.

  i actually was a late person in getting married, i was 23. i remember being one of the few people my age in the congregation, not married yet.

  i actually remember thinking, where am i going to find someone to marry, that is not yet taken.

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  Depends on where you're from, too ... Actually, young marriages were the only thing Witnesses had in COMMON with the rest of the world where I grew up. :) Small rural area where everyone lived on a farm and there were 10 students in the high school graduating class -- people either got married or went to college right after high school, and for most, it was the former. (And I graduated from high school in the past five years.) I wasn't a Witness, but well over half of the young people I knew from my hometown got married within the first year or two after graduating high school.

  So hey -- in some parts of the country (US, I mean), Witnesses are downright normal!! *gasp*

  cheers!
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  Something I Have To Tell The Board

  by ColdRedRain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i got a phone call today from one of my former lovers.

  she told me that she was with a man that was close to death, because he caught hiv and he didn't tell her.

  anyways, i'm about to get tested tomorrow, april 1. pray that i test negative.

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  somebodylovesme

  Just have to jump in because: "you'll be awright as long as you didnt have any open sores on your dick at the time." = NOT TRUE. You do not need to have open sores to get infected. Just an FYI.
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  Top 17 Bumper Stickers

  by Frannie Banannie in

  1. social
  2. humour

  yall got any more?these are the top 17 bumper .

  stickers that everyone wants to see.... jesus loves you...but everyone else thinks you are an ass.

  impotence...nature's way of saying "no hard feelings,".

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  "I don't need to be born again. I got it right the first time!"

  :)
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  Good books on the history of the Bible? Origins, translations, alterations

  by somebodylovesme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm looking for good scholarly books that address the bible's history -- its origins, translations, alterations, suppressions ... in other words, the history the elders never told you.

  ;) i'm not a religious person (i would probably be classified as a weak atheist if i cared much about classifications), but i am very fascinated by religion and would like to expand my own historical knowledge.

  bonus points for any books that address the similarities between judaism/christianity and zoroastrianism.

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  Thanks for the tips!! (Amazon.com, here I come ...)

  Yeah, I know Da Vinci is solidly lodged in the fiction aisle, which I why I wasn't even going to read it at first. Now I want to read it because my husband's going to want to see the movie, and I want to read the book first. *shrugs*

  I'm really excited about diving into this. :D Thanks so much!!