Garybuss -- Can you tell us where that picture/copy came from? It's fascinating and I'd like to share it with some "faithful" friends ...
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Why do you accept ancient religions?
by free2beme inback hundreds of years ago, people actually blamed illness on bad spirits and even believed in bleeding people to cure illnesses.
people would also use leaches on people to get the blood out.
doctors on the battlefield did not do something as common as washing their hands between patients, to avoid spreading infection and disease.
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My No, Blood card
by ColdRedRain intoday at school, i saw a dub displaying her no blood card.
that gave me the idea to make a card that i can carry around in case, god forbid, i'm found unconcious and i need a blood transfusion, but i might be in the care of a jehovah's witness or if my hospital records show me as a jehovahs witness.
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My No, Blood card
by ColdRedRain intoday at school, i saw a dub displaying her no blood card.
that gave me the idea to make a card that i can carry around in case, god forbid, i'm found unconcious and i need a blood transfusion, but i might be in the care of a jehovah's witness or if my hospital records show me as a jehovahs witness.
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This post really got me thinking, because if my husband and I were ever both incapacitated, then JW family members may be left to make medical decisions for us. Since hubby is a fader, I don't think they would think twice before saying, "Of course he doesn't want blood!" even though he hasn't carried a No Blood card for at least four years.I like the card made above, and I stole some of the language to tailor my own. This is what I came up with, and I was wondering if I could get some feedback on it from anyone who knows more about these things ... There's no law in my state requiring certain language for advance directives, but there are requirements (two signatures plus have it notarized) to appoint a patient advocate -- someone to make decisions for you. I think spouses are automatically one's advocate, but I'm throwing it in there anyway to avoid any Terri Shiavo-like problems. So, here's my draft:
Living Will / Advance Medical Directive
I, [my name here], being of sound mind, submit this writing to be an expression of my consent to any necessary medical services if I should become incapacitated.
I authorize my husband, [husband’s name here], to make any and all medical decisions on my behalf. I hereby appoint him to be my Patient Advocate.
I hereby consent to receive blood transfusions. It is my express wish that if a transfusion or any blood products are needed, that I DO want them to be administered to me.
Please DO NOT allow any persons who currently adhere to the teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses to refuse blood on my behalf. I do not follow their teachings. If I am unconscious or otherwise incapacitated and need a blood transfusion, I give my authority for any medical professional to provide a blood transfusion or any other necessary care to me.
Photocopies of this document, after it is signed and witnessed, shall have the same legal force as the original document.
I sign this document after careful consideration. I understand its meaning and I accept its consequences.
(signatures, etc)
... I realize that it's very redundant, but I don't want any mix-up or misinterpretation.
I'm going to run it by an attorney and then hubby and I will each carry copies on our person at all times.
Thanks for this post. I never would have thought to do this otherwise. Hopefully it'll never be an issue ... but there is no way either of us is going to do for a faith in which we do not believe.
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TORT OF MISREPRESENTATION
by DazedAndConfused init is also stated on this same page (785):
2. jehovahs witnesses, blood transfusions and the tort of misrepresentation page 785.
i am not one for long posts but this time i felt this was important.
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I haven't read the article and I'm not an attorney -- but I'm fairly confident that in the U.S., the Statute of Limitations has already passed for any civil claims stemming from misleading statements made prior to 1975. I think most time limits on tort actions (like fraud and libel) range from 1 to 5 years on average.
The way around that is to use the Discovery Rule, which states that the statute of limitations begins to run at the time you did or reasonably should have discovered the injury. In this case, though, it seems like the reasonable time to "discover" the injury would have been soon after 1975.
... and all of that is assuming the courts would go anywhere near a suit based on 1975 misrepresentations. I don't think they would, personally.
Just thoughts. I'll be interested to follow this whole saga ...
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The Watchtower and Awake!Timely Journals of Truth?
by Rooster inmagazines that advocate truth.
3 jehovah is "the god of truth.
" (psalm 31:5) his word, the bible, is a book of truth.
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The first time I read it I threw up, the same there after until I had tears in my eyes.
... Well, when I read the magazines, I feel nauseous, too ...
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animals dying
by cousin Z ina jw friend of mine said that durning the 1000 years of paradise earth, that animals will still die.
he said that they will die to be a reminder that any jw could die durning that time.
is this an official teaching?
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My cat's not going to live forever with me in a paradise on Earth?!?!
That's it. I'm not going.
Seriously, though, the arbitrary nature of such a statement just makes me roll my eyes at what they presume to "know."
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Circumcision and Gestational Surrogacy ... JWs' beliefs?
by somebodylovesme intwo quick questions to broaden my knowledge of witness doctrine, only for the sake of keeping up with what my in-laws believe.
either of these issues could, after all, come up someday ... (not that their beliefs will affect what we do, but it's nice to know from what direction the fights are coming.
1. circumcision -- clearly allowed, but is it required?
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Thanks so much, Scully. That's so disturbing to me -- it defiles the marriage?! Being able to have a child, after desperately wanting one, is bad because the woman is just meant to be a baby-popper-outer? oy.
Also ...
One is the potential for ugly legal battles if the woman who gives birth wants to keep the baby. Whose baby is it, the woman who gives birth or the woman who provides the egg?
Granted, I'm only in my first year of law school, and we've not covered anything like this -- but I should think there wouldn't be nearly as many legal issues here as there would be in a traditional surrogacy, where the mother has a biological tie. It's for this reason that some agencies will only do gestational surrogacies and not traditional surrogacies. Surrogate mama hasn't any rights in such a case. Right? Yeah, she could try to run away with the baby, but that'd get her in a heap of trouble, breach of contract being near the bottom of her list of worries. (But then, I know very little about this, so I'm postulating.)
It also irks me when they use Leviticus and Deuteronomy to justify teachings, given that that's the old law and they pick and choose what they follow. -- That applies not just to Witnesses.
*sigh*
Thanks again!!
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Circumcision and Gestational Surrogacy ... JWs' beliefs?
by somebodylovesme intwo quick questions to broaden my knowledge of witness doctrine, only for the sake of keeping up with what my in-laws believe.
either of these issues could, after all, come up someday ... (not that their beliefs will affect what we do, but it's nice to know from what direction the fights are coming.
1. circumcision -- clearly allowed, but is it required?
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Hi everyone --Two quick questions to broaden my knowledge of Witness doctrine, only for the sake of keeping up with what my in-laws believe. Either of these issues could, after all, come up someday ... (Not that their beliefs will affect what we do, but it's nice to know from what direction the fights are coming.)
1. Circumcision -- Clearly allowed, but is it required? Suggested? Left up to the culture? (I'm thinking of the fact that circumcision is much more prevalent in the US than in Canada or Great Britain) Have they any stated opinion on this at all? Seems like if they take all of those damned blood verses so seriously, they "should" remember the orders to circumcise, shouldn't they? (I personally don't have strong feelings about circumcision, though I lean toward opposition, but I'm not trying to start a debate. )
2. I read on a medical website (http://www.med.umich.edu/multicultural/ccp/jehovah.htm) that:
Gestational surrogacy is considered to be unacceptable.
... I didn't remember hearing that before. Is that doctrine, a conscience issue, or not true?
Curious minds want to know. Thanks as always!!
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Comments You Will Not Hear At the 1-8-06 WT Study (Languages)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 01-01-06 wt study (december 1, 2005 issue, pp.
22-26)(language).
"ten men out of all the languages of the nations will [say]: 'we will go with.
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Your analysis and points are spot on, as always. I always read them, even though I don't often comment.
But the article itself seemed even more painfully boring than most WT articles. The whole pathetic thing could be summarized in three sentences: Prophecy said the word about Jesus would be spread in diverse languages. We preach in many languages. Therefore, prophecy has come true -- now go preach more.
And yet, they take how many pages to say that? To buttress it with useless filler? Yeah. It's a diverse world. Every religion, if they want to expand, has to tailor its message to the tongue of the target audience. But so does Pepsi-Cola. So does McDonald's. Yay globalism, we're using more than one language. What's so damn special about it, oh Watchtower?
Seriously, there is no way I could sit through a meeting like that and just smile and nod.
... But despite the boring article, your commentary is brilliant. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
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