Armageddon will fall on a tuesday(doomsday) this year
JH
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Another apparent Atheist/Agnostic vainly disguised as a christian. A truly satanic practice called hypocrisy.
Sherwood
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
Armageddon will fall on a tuesday(doomsday) this year
JH
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Another apparent Atheist/Agnostic vainly disguised as a christian. A truly satanic practice called hypocrisy.
Sherwood
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
How else are you going to keep gullible people in line without scaring the shit out of them? Here are just a few prophecies about the end and the Hindu and Buddhist ones were written hundreds of years before the bible version.
My personal prophecy to all of you is this; when you look up and see clouds starting to form you will soon have a wet face. To avoid this catastrophe, go in your house, get out your check book and send all your money to me. If you do, I promise you will not get wet as long as you stay in your house and write me checks. Trust me, I aint lie'n.
You can take the people out of the bullshit but you ca't take the bullshit out of the people.
-Mickey Mouse
Dave
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First off, did you go by the name Agent Seven or Gary Seven (among other) on usenet?
Also, I've read some of your other vain & over bloated retorts of self-conceit and delved into your own little itsy-bitsy Atheist/Agnostic imagination called, "your mind" and have evaluated the limitations to what it knows.
Many of your post have a significant flaw. Satan KNOWS Jehovah God's divine plan and promoted false teachings throughout the centuries. Satan knows what the bible says. Satan is a copy cat (brainwashed from previous patterns of behavior?). Satan sealed a pattern of which Jehovah is fully aware. Jehovah deals with satan accordingly. Ezekiel 28:11-19
The truth Jesus gave and the ransom he paid for mankind with his shed blood, countered all of satan's mimicking religious philosophies - including apostate christendom. John 14:30, 16:7-11
Sherwood
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
Readers will note that Sherwood is unable to respond at all, and JH has assumed the classic posture of the Fundamentalist hearing things he cannot refute: fingers in ears and loudly chanting, "La la la la la la la la la la!"
AlanF
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Hey, I broke away from the computer and watched "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" on DVD. AlanF, your presumptuous horns are mentally showing by your little bad boy attitude. In fact, I reserved the right to post any time of day (or day) I wish.
Anyway, being glued to the rants of Agnostic/Atheist telling christians what christianity IS, isn't the most entertaining intellectual exercise available on the internet. I mean, just look above at your retarded response and little bad boy attitude, AlanF
Peace Out ;-)
Sherwood
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
AlanF,
I never quoted the WT. Lay off "the watchtower" element as if *I* am defending THEM ;-)
Now regarding what *I* said, it's the culmination of Jesus' sign that *I* believe has a distinct mark embedded in history. It doesn't matter HOW the wars, famine, pestilence, earthquakes, increase in SIN culminated since 1914, it's the fact that they are PRONOUNCED clearly to me, a professed christian. I am a professed christian having FAITH that Jesus is alive; he spoke the truth; and his words are presently being fulfilled.
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Johnny cip
You to are under the impression I NEED to defend the WT. I don't.
You've made erroneous arguments such as *I* claimed that the Spanish Influenza was the worst disease in all history. Your retort is full of hyperbole and fallacious argumentation, thus your angle is discounted. Readdress the argument with 'reasonableness' instead of something similar to a child's illogical tantrum.
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Peace Out ;-)
Sherwood
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with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
Jesus gave no signs. Furthermore, what the WTS claims are signs are, on careful examination, more like anti-signs. Death due to famine, pestilence and earthquakes is down drastically. That's why there's a population explosion.
AlanF
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President Bush "State of the Union Address" this year surprised African Countries when he admonished to give billion+ dollars for AIDS related causes in those countries. One third of people in that continent are infected with the HIV virus. Cancer is still the #1 killer in the world followed by Heart Disease. Looks like pestilence is 'still' part the sign. Who knows how the latest terrorism threats - if carried out - will significantly increase pestilence. As regards WWI, more people died from the Spanish Influenza (reported 20 million) than all those who died in the actual war (reported 9 million).
Famine never got better since the pangs of distress started 1914 according to most UN statistical reports.
On record, earthquakes (including volcanos) in one place after another are still causing 'pangs of distress' upon earth's population like no other time in history.
Wars have increased in frequency, multitude of troops, and destructive intensity since 1914.
Increase in Lawlessness (sin) is arguably at the tempo of the Canaanites before Jehovah came into Judgment with them.
Sherwood
title: christ's brothers.
context: when are christ's brothers manifest?.
setting: 5 minute talk on the podium stage of power.. opening of talk:.
Title: Christ's Brothers
Context: When are Christ's Brothers manifest?
Setting: 5 minute talk on the podium stage of power.
Opening of talk:
Watchtower 1998 9/15 17 Waiting in "Eager Expectation"
7 In the near future, Christ will judge people of the nations on the basis of how they have acted toward his brothers yet on earth. We read: "When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. . . . The king will say to [the sheep], "Truly I say to you, To the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me." . . . And [the goats] will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life." Matthew 25:31-46. 8 As shown in the parable of the sheep and the goats, Jesus executes final judgment upon all the ungodly.
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Body of talk:
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses claims to be "christ's brothers" in this parable. However, here is scriptural proof that "christ's brothers" are seen in the 1000 year judgment day and not before Armageddon during the time of the end.
Matthew 19:27, 28
27 Then Peter said to him in reply: "Look! We have left all things and followed you; what actually will there be for us?" 28 Jesus said to them: "Truly I say to you, In the re-creation, when the Son of man sits down upon his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also yourselves sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
Jesus only uses the setting "will sit down on his glorious throne" twice in scripture. Once at the setting of the Sheep & Goats and another time when he talks about the 1000 year Judgment Day when the Apostles are to rule as kings & priest with Him during the resurrection on earth. See Also, John 5:28, 29
Daniel 12:1
And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people. And there will certainly occur a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time.
Consider too, Jesus "will sit down" when separating people as "sheep & goats" YET at the start of the Great Tribulation he "Stands Up." (Daniel 12:1) Where in scripture do you see anyone "sitting down" and "standing up" to perform the SAME ACT at the SAME TIME? Clearly, the WTS is teaching a false doctrine about the sheep & goats so as to "lord it over the flock of God" appointing themselves to be the pseudo-anointed christ's brothers due to their cravings for sensual gratification. In doing so, the WTS is promoting a Golden Calf organization whereby one's means of salvation isn't in obeying Jesus commands and exercising faith in his ransom, but ALSO demands paying allegiance and obedience to these pseudo-anointed 'christ brothers.' They did not heed Jesus' admonition, "you receive free, you give free." Instead the WTS promotes themselves as if they alone have received enlightenment or only they have received "new light." In turn, they demand obedience at their whim.
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Conclusion of talk:
Jesus sets the stage of the 1000 year Judgment Day. Why is this important. Because the Sheep & Goats parable brings about Eternal Life or Eternal Judgment. The WTS teaches this Eternal Life or Eternal Judgment happens during Armageddon because they "claim" to be Christ Brothers in the Parable. It is gross presumptuousness to have the gall to assert such a teaching. It is a contemptuous promotion of one*selves* to gain control over the flock so as to "lord it over them" or to "rule as kings & priest" before they have been awarded this prize by Jesus. It is as christendom did with the Hellfire doctrine. "Obey or go to eternal flames in Hell", say Christendom. The WTS tactic is similarly teaching, "Obey us as Christ's Brothers or go to eternal cutting off. See 1 Corinthians 4:8, 9
If you examine just about every 'eternal destruction' scripture, you will find it relating to the 1000 year Judgment Day and not Armageddon.
Ref: article
http://reslight.addr.com/armageddon.html
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found this on usenet and just had to pass it along.
sherwood.
investigating.
Peacefulpete....you agree with Sherwood?
Gumby
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What did you disagree with what Sherwood said in this thread?
Sherwood
found this on usenet and just had to pass it along.
sherwood.
investigating.
IMO it's not about joining a religion so much as having Christ join you!
This entire "joining" thing emanates from what the Borg taught us, namely that an organisation is the mediator between us and God.
I would suggest looking at real Christian belief that of having an individual relationship with God and Jesus. Once you understand that, organisations are superfluous. Until we understand that, we'll always be bound by the Borg and its teachings.
Cheers, Ozzie
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What a cool cat you are ;-)
Sherwood
found this on usenet and just had to pass it along.
sherwood.
investigating.
For those who can not read Italian, the internet link has been taken away due to violation the user abused according to their terms and agreement.
Shucks (o:
Sherwood
found this on usenet and just had to pass it along.
sherwood.
investigating.
Found this on usenet and just had to pass it along
Sherwood
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I think I'm on to something here but I'll have to do a little more
investigating. It seems too good to be true, so there must be a catch.
I found a Catholic fundamentalist non-denominational sect (CFNS) which uses
a REAL Bible that doesn't contradict itself. All of its teachings make
perfect sense to me and the people are so wonderful. I never thought this was
possible. I still can't believe it.
You can find out more information on their website:
http://digilander.libero.it/caricacell/
Above link is invalid today.
TRY
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.html
A more charismatic faction of this sect is found here:
http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/fool.htm
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Mark
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