Sherwood ; i'm sorry . . . . i have . . . . if you . . .. . all that . . . . from the wt . . . it was . . . . so i . . . . but the . . . go to jw research site or quotes site. and read it .... . . i stand . . . . i did . . maybe . . .. johnny cip ************************************ Pathetic MORON. If you can't learn how to write, you can't teach by writing. Learn how to capitalize the first word in a sentence. Learn how to use a spell checker. What you've attempted to say is non-sensical because your *character* is arrogantly and purposefully ignorant. Sherwood
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How many years left to Armageddon
by JH inwith all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
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How many years left to Armageddon
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can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
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Sherwood ; i have no friends here , alot don't like my posts. if i'm wrong i will admitt it. and have on occasion. i have gave you answers on your posts, and used your own words to condemn the wt.
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Do you think I care about a MORON who 'actually' believes I am still DEFENDING the WT. Much less, a MORON who persistently doesn't capitalize the first letter in a sentence or use a spell checker. I bet you have more than one username on this site, but write johnny cip posts like a MORON to distract from your other characters on this forum. Not very many people are as MORONIC as you've been thus far in this thread. I mean, talk about boring one to a tease with arguments YOU have created and built within YOUR imagination on a false premise. The false premise being that I am DEFENDING the WT. Get over it AND over it again as the johnny cip MORONS R' US entourage you've encouraged is nothing close to real debate. Of course, neither are the 'other' Atheist/Agnostic gang bangers dialogue found on this forum in abundance.
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Gred Stafford Not committed--too afraid of being DFd!
by cyberguy inive just completed the reading of greg staffords latest book, "the three dissertations on the teachings of jehovahs witnesses.
" although i appreciate his point-of-view overall, i find that his writing is often difficult to follow and at worst, not forthright on doctrinal issues.
basically, i find his writings rather anemic, hes just not forthright; he evidently doesnt want to be dfd!
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After seeing him on this board in two personalities, one bragging on what a good job the other was doing, I haven't haven't had much use for the guy. He lied and got caught in it. He was more or less chased off the board by another Witness who was threatening to turn him in. Didn't show much class in either his dealings with those he was debating or his accuser and blackmailer. I would never want him to get a penny of my money. Grunt ******************************** Hey, can you show me the links to these two names on this board where he congratulates himself. I would like to know the two names at least if you can't find the links. TIA ;-) Sherwood
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How many years left to Armageddon
by JH inwith all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
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Which is the Atheist/Agnostic gang bangers objection in the first place when a christian opines. This is because they are locked in to a philosophical mindset - promoted by the leaders of the gang - that frustrates their answers to even why they exist, let alone the subject of divine judgment of the present system of things. In another words, it's not my fault they are involved in a cultish clique on this forum. They supposedly know all the answers because their leaders trained them with the limited knowledge built upon their imagination. Tsk, tsk, tsk!
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How many years left to Armageddon
by JH inwith all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
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Well, typical Atheist/Agnostic gang banger OUTLAW drone clone, I've haven't seen anybody intelligent enough amongst your fellow hate mongering members to reply adequately to Sherwood. You must be in the cultish Atheist/Agnostic BOX yourself. Ironically, Sherwood shakes the box and they all run like scared rabbits.
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How many years left to Armageddon
by JH inwith all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
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Dave, you live in a little box. It is not my fault you can't accept my answer due to your limited knowledge which you have put
together within your imagination. Get out of the box and follow the bible instead of the white rabbit.Sherwood
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Ministerial School talk
by Sherwood intitle: christ's brothers.
context: when are christ's brothers manifest?.
setting: 5 minute talk on the podium stage of power.. opening of talk:.
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Funkyderek,
Sherwood, if you're going to criticise somebody's spelling or grammar you should really make sure your own is correct. Otherwise you come across as an ignorant ASSHOLE and a judgmental PRICK.
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Like I care what YOU or any other gang banging Atheist/Agnostic hate monger on this site thinks about my mannerisms on this forum.
NOTE the hypocrisy of the Atheist/Agnostic gang banger toward spell/grammar checking to be at many levels against the professed christian, but not amongst themselves.
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Ministerial School talk
by Sherwood intitle: christ's brothers.
context: when are christ's brothers manifest?.
setting: 5 minute talk on the podium stage of power.. opening of talk:.
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Johnny cip, the WTS changed the Sheep & Goats scenario to happen during a *moment of time* when the Great Tribulation strikes. They've changed the teaching of Jesus "standing up" to "standing up in a unique special way." They did this when around the time when they changed the 'generation' definition. They still believe it brings Eternal Life or Eternal Death during the Great Tribulation.
BTW, EaT aT JoEs 4 uR cRoW . . . . . ;0)
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How many years left to Armageddon
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can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
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No Nathan, I don't rely on dating schemes. I believe 1914 is a defining moment in history according to the sign Jesus gave and not because of biblical chronology. I believe the Live Forever book's argumentation in Chapter 2 to be valid but Not Chapter 16. WHY, because Jesus didn't say the sign entailed any type of scriptural chronological collaboration.
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How many years left to Armageddon
by JH inwith all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
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Listen people, and understand why I hold to various (not all) teachings of the WTS. I don't believe they were ever in the right to preach speculative dates of predicting Armageddon. As a JW, I made excuses for them with the clichés like, "christians aren't perfect, just forgiven." However, I despised the GB's lack of personal responsibility for altering people's lives when they promoted these dates. I told those in my congregation and everywhere that the GB was responsible for the 1975 debacle, not 'some over zealous ones' throughout the world in the congregations. What bunk those assertions the WTS proclaimed to be!
Proverbs 1:5-7 5 A wise person will listen and take in more instruction, and a man of understanding is the one who acquires skillful direction, 6 to understand a proverb and a puzzling saying, the words of wise persons and their riddles.
7 The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge. Wisdom and discipline are what mere fools have despised.
I do believe 1914 is a marked year which pronounced the 'time of the end' where Jesus was installed as king of God's Kingdom in heaven, satan was kicked out of heaven and has made great trouble for the earth because this cherub is pissed off at this predicament of being confined to the earth and only have a short period of time before being abyssed. (see Revelation 12:7-12, 20:1-3) This teaching I was taught by the WTS and I am sticking with this teaching because *I* believe it's the truth, not because I 'follow' an organization around blindly. After all, I would be DF'd for believing blood transfusions should be a serious conscious issue and not a mandatory "do what the GB says or be eternally destroyed" dogmatic doctrine. I would be deemed an apostate for believing Jesus died for all sinners, thus Armageddon victims will be resurrection the is "Resurrection of the Unrighteous." Of course, that is what Russell taught, who also would be an apostate if he came back to the earth today. Yet look, I don't believe all the things CTR taught either, nor do I wish to be a member of any of there 'groups.'
1 Thessalonians 5:1-11 5 Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, YOU need nothing to be written to YOU . 2 For YOU yourselves know quite well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape. 4 But YOU , brothers, YOU are not in darkness, so that that day should overtake YOU as it would thieves, 5 for YOU are all sons of light and sons of day. We belong neither to night nor to darkness.
Now, here we have a International Organization called the United Nations whose main theme is to preserve "Peace and Security" to all nations. Are you awake yet? However, this is no excuse for the GB to predict dates for Armageddon. They have sinned and are unrepentant about it. Nevertheless, my job is to press forward and NOT look back. This is what Jehovah is asking of me (see rest of scripture below).
6 So, then, let us not sleep on as the rest do, but let us stay awake and keep our senses. 7 For those who sleep are accustomed to sleep at night, and those who get drunk are usually drunk at night. 8 But as for us who belong to the day, let us keep our senses and have on the breastplate of faith and love and as a helmet the hope of salvation; 9 because God assigned us, not to wrath, but to the acquiring of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 10 He died for us, that, whether we stay awake or are asleep, we should live together with him. 11 Therefore keep comforting one another and building one another up, just as YOU are in fact doing.
While I don't hold to any perfect standard of rules and practices, I will strive to carry on the christian course by doing God's Will with these things. Sure, I'm a christian who said F*ck and Sh*t. Go ahead and judge me for my indiscretions, thus imperfections. Just know, that:
Romans 3:4 But let God be found true, though every man be found a liar
Psalm 116:11
I, for my part, said, when I became panicky:
“Every man is a liar.”Ecclesiastes 7:29 - 8:1 29 See! This only I have found, that the [true] God made mankind upright, but they themselves have sought out many plans.”
8 Who is there like the wise one? And who is there knowing the interpretation of a thing? The wisdom of a man itself causes his face to shine, and even the sternness of his face is changed [for the better].
Sherwood