title: christ's brothers.
context: when are christ's brothers manifest?.
setting: 5 minute talk on the podium stage of power.. opening of talk:.
Johnny cip, the WTS changed the Sheep & Goats scenario to happen during a *moment of time* when the Great Tribulation strikes. They've changed the teaching of Jesus "standing up" to "standing up in a unique special way." They did this when around the time when they changed the 'generation' definition. They still believe it brings Eternal Life or Eternal Death during the Great Tribulation.
BTW, EaT aT JoEs 4 uR cRoW . . . . . ;0)
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
No Nathan, I don't rely on dating schemes. I believe 1914 is a defining moment in history according to the sign Jesus gave and not because of biblical chronology. I believe the Live Forever book's argumentation in Chapter 2 to be valid but Not Chapter 16. WHY, because Jesus didn't say the sign entailed any type of scriptural chronological collaboration.
Sherwood
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
Listen people, and understand why I hold to various (not all) teachings of the WTS. I don't believe they were ever in the right to preach speculative dates of predicting Armageddon. As a JW, I made excuses for them with the clichés like, "christians aren't perfect, just forgiven." However, I despised the GB's lack of personal responsibility for altering people's lives when they promoted these dates. I told those in my congregation and everywhere that the GB was responsible for the 1975 debacle, not 'some over zealous ones' throughout the world in the congregations. What bunk those assertions the WTS proclaimed to be!
Proverbs 1:5-7 5 A wise person will listen and take in more instruction, and a man of understanding is the one who acquires skillful direction, 6 to understand a proverb and a puzzling saying, the words of wise persons and their riddles.
7 The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge. Wisdom and discipline are what mere fools have despised.
I do believe 1914 is a marked year which pronounced the 'time of the end' where Jesus was installed as king of God's Kingdom in heaven, satan was kicked out of heaven and has made great trouble for the earth because this cherub is pissed off at this predicament of being confined to the earth and only have a short period of time before being abyssed. (see Revelation 12:7-12, 20:1-3) This teaching I was taught by the WTS and I am sticking with this teaching because *I* believe it's the truth, not because I 'follow' an organization around blindly. After all, I would be DF'd for believing blood transfusions should be a serious conscious issue and not a mandatory "do what the GB says or be eternally destroyed" dogmatic doctrine. I would be deemed an apostate for believing Jesus died for all sinners, thus Armageddon victims will be resurrection the is "Resurrection of the Unrighteous." Of course, that is what Russell taught, who also would be an apostate if he came back to the earth today. Yet look, I don't believe all the things CTR taught either, nor do I wish to be a member of any of there 'groups.'
1 Thessalonians 5:1-11 5 Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, YOU need nothing to be written to YOU . 2 For YOU yourselves know quite well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape. 4 But YOU , brothers, YOU are not in darkness, so that that day should overtake YOU as it would thieves, 5 for YOU are all sons of light and sons of day. We belong neither to night nor to darkness.
Now, here we have a International Organization called the United Nations whose main theme is to preserve "Peace and Security" to all nations. Are you awake yet? However, this is no excuse for the GB to predict dates for Armageddon. They have sinned and are unrepentant about it. Nevertheless, my job is to press forward and NOT look back. This is what Jehovah is asking of me (see rest of scripture below).
6 So, then, let us not sleep on as the rest do, but let us stay awake and keep our senses. 7 For those who sleep are accustomed to sleep at night, and those who get drunk are usually drunk at night. 8 But as for us who belong to the day, let us keep our senses and have on the breastplate of faith and love and as a helmet the hope of salvation; 9 because God assigned us, not to wrath, but to the acquiring of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 10 He died for us, that, whether we stay awake or are asleep, we should live together with him. 11 Therefore keep comforting one another and building one another up, just as YOU are in fact doing.
While I don't hold to any perfect standard of rules and practices, I will strive to carry on the christian course by doing God's Will with these things. Sure, I'm a christian who said F*ck and Sh*t. Go ahead and judge me for my indiscretions, thus imperfections. Just know, that:
Romans 3:4 But let God be found true, though every man be found a liar
Psalm 116:11
I, for my part, said, when I became panicky:
“Every man is a liar.”
Ecclesiastes 7:29 - 8:1 29 See! This only I have found, that the [true] God made mankind upright, but they themselves have sought out many plans.”
8 Who is there like the wise one? And who is there knowing the interpretation of a thing? The wisdom of a man itself causes his face to shine, and even the sternness of his face is changed [for the better].
Sherwood
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
seven006, don't make me repeat myself again.
This is your answer AGAIN
Many of your post have a significant flaw. Satan KNOWS Jehovah God's divine plan and promoted false teachings throughout the centuries. Satan knows what the bible says. Satan is a copy cat (brainwashed from previous patterns of behavior?). Satan sealed a pattern of which Jehovah is fully aware. Jehovah deals with satan accordingly. Ezekiel 28:11-19
The truth Jesus gave and the ransom he paid for mankind with his shed blood, countered all of satan's mimicking religious philosophies - including apostate christendom. John 14:30, 16:7-11
Sherwood
title: christ's brothers.
context: when are christ's brothers manifest?.
setting: 5 minute talk on the podium stage of power.. opening of talk:.
Isn't the WTS promoting regression from the BSA Russell type teachings ??
TIA for your response
BTW, get a spell checker. Always (unless being you WISH to be deliberately obtuse) CAPITALIZE the First word in a sentence --- MORON
Sherwood
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
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Sherwood,
Cat got your typing fingers? Dave ****************************** No, I have been trying to post in this thread for several days. Let's see if this passes. Sherwood ##$%##$%##$%##$%##$%##$%##$%##$%##$%##$% Ah, ya, IE6 solved? BULLSH*T issues of security? What the F*CK is this new format on this site? Sherwood | ||
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
Sherwood,
Cat got your typing fingers?
Dave
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No, I have been trying to post in this thread for several days. Let's see if this passes.
Sherwood
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
Dave utters:
Sherwood,
First; no.
-- Dave, are you being clever with my wording of your former usenet name similarities? Come clean, if you're not BEING honest. Under which names did you use under usenet?
Dave utters:
Second;
Boy, you sure got me didn't you, I'm bleeding....aaaaaaaaaaaa.
I get a kick out of you
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-- Well, I guess we are kicking each other and laughing ourselves
to a tease . . . . . ;o)
Dave utters:
simple minded fundies
-- ERROR, ERROR, ERROR
Dave utters:
who can't see past the stupidity of a talking snake myth.
-- You could have made a point here, but I will let the babble go on to make A point.
Dave utters:
All you need to know about life is written one little book that is nothing but an accumulation of bumbling contradictions and cut and paste myths of ancient religions. You share the same kind of simple blind logic as the red neck christians who run around at night with sheets over their heads and light crosses on fire screaming "jesus is with us"!!!!!.
Hey, did they tell you the one about the talking bush yet?
I like stories about talking plants and animals. The Cat in The Hat is my favorite but I do think he was sent by Satin the debbel to mess with those little kinds. Oh no, what was that noise behind me???? Oh shit, it's a demon and he's coming at me and he..........................aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
-- Pray tell, you assert such things are absurd in our vast "universe" of scientific LAWS SEEN in Earth's nature. Who is narrow minded now?
Think about it before YOU decide to play again.
The other trainee Atheist/Agnostic FOLLOWERS of imperfect men need not respond (excluding AlanF). You haven't learned UR lessons properly.
Peace Out ;-)
Sherwood
Edited by - Sherwood on 16 February 2003 0:44:4
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
: [ignoring the rest of AlanF's rant and taunting rebuttal]
As well as all other facts.
I rest my case. This poor, deluded JW is completely unable to defend his faith. And he knows it.
AlanF
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Nope. You're just to spiritually & mentally inept to grasp the faith in Jesus Christ that I defend.
What do you think about that?
Sherwood
with all the emphasis put on armageddon in the org.
can we throw away all the signs that jesus gave, just because we quit being a jw?.
does armageddon scare you as much as when you were a jw?
Sherwood said:
:: Readers will note that Sherwood is unable to respond at all, ...
: Hey, I broke away from the computer and watched "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" on DVD. AlanF, your presumptuous horns are mentally showing by your little bad boy attitude. In fact, I reserved the right to post any time of day (or day) I wish.
Ok, I was wrong and I repent in sackcloth and ashes. But your responses have so far been devoid of content.
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That is because of the bad spelling I have to sift through from Atheist/Agnostics. It is also because the Atheist/Agnostic use of hyperbole, fallacious arguments, erroneous facts in abundance. I mean, who the hell needs to go through the agony of correcting the bombardment of the unbelievers when they are as impotent and incredulous as yourself. Clearly, you are not a christian, but have some twisted human need to tell me what a christian's faith should surmise to be.
[ignoring the rest of AlanF's rant and taunting rebuttal]
Sherwood
