Heatmiser

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  just introducing myself

  by adri2 in

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  i never did become a jw but i did associate with them for a few years by attending meetings, going house to house, and all that fun stuff.

  anyway, i have so much in my mind that i cannot possibly say in one post.

  basically i saw/heard many things during my association with jw that i just didn't agree with or just made me wonder if they were truly teaching the "truth", which i have recently come to the conclusion that there is no truth.

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  Welcome
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  What obligation do you feel towards your family who are still in?

  by czarofmischief in

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  everybody's situation is different, of course, and everybody has their own choices to make.. but do you recall that when we were dubs, we were constantly urged to go out in service, because people needed to hear what we thought was the truth?

  they would use that scripture by paul, "i consider myself a debtor to all men" etc.

  to enforce the moral compulsion to go door to door.. now that we know the truth about the truth; how obliged are we to tell our family?

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  My experience is that one can point out all the idiocies, contradictions, and false-prophecies all you like and it still never gets through. I think most JWs have turned off the logic part of their brain like most conspiracy theorists.

  I couldn't have said it any better.

  If I say ANYTHING about WTBS it is "APOSTATE" and they shut down. My contact with them is once every few years. So as long as they don't bring up JW vomit, I don't say anything.
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  Book study books

  by Heatmiser in

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  when i was "in" the books where hard back.

  now with them being paperback i would imagine them being very flimsy.

  i was visiting my grandparents a few months ago and my jw parents also happened to be visiting at the same time.

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  When I was "in" the books where hard back. Now with them being paperback I would imagine them being very flimsy. I was visiting my Grandparents a few months ago and my JW parents also happened to be visiting at the same time. I noticed that the study book they where using bound with a plastic spiral. I asked them "Is this how they print the books now?". They told me that the books fall apart easier so they take the study books to kinko's and have them bound that way so they will last through the book study.

  Is this a common thing with other JW's? I know my parents are a little off of their rocker, just wondering if they are extra nutty on this one.

  I have paperback books that I read and have reread over and over, abused, bent and mangled and they have stayed together relativly well considering the abuse. Are WTBS books so cheaply made that they fall apart that easily?

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  UN Scandal - does anyone know the reason they joined to start with?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  like most on this board, i know the story, have seen the un press release, ect.

  but can someone comment on two questions for me?.

  who caught them with their hands in the cookie jar?

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  If they wanted access to "good" libraries, it wouldn't be a problem being in NYC. They have an AWSOME public library that has been around for a very long time and well funded. Probably one of the better libraries in the USA other than the library of congress. Then there are University libraries close by that are VERY comprehensive libraries. And I am pretty sure that anything that the UN puts in its own library can be obtained through one of a myriad of govt. agencies for little or no cost.
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  Helpppppppppppppp

  by vitty in

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  weve been fading now for 9 months.. can anybody tell me what book jws are studing 1 and 2nd week of march????.

  this is going to take some monovering but, weve got visitors and they want to go to a meeting mid week.

  sso we are going to take them to a cong outside our territory, and we need to visit it for a couple of weeks so they think its ours.

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  Find something else to do that night as a group. Like a play or sporting event. Something that needs tickets "that you could only get for that night".

  If they start talking to people in the hall you take them to, it will start to unravel pretty quick.

  Just my .02

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  UN Scandal - does anyone know the reason they joined to start with?

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  like most on this board, i know the story, have seen the un press release, ect.

  but can someone comment on two questions for me?.

  who caught them with their hands in the cookie jar?

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  bttt
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  UN Scandal - does anyone know the reason they joined to start with?

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  like most on this board, i know the story, have seen the un press release, ect.

  but can someone comment on two questions for me?.

  who caught them with their hands in the cookie jar?

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  I'm quite sure that the Society's original motive in joining itself to the UN was to get a regular library card, as opposed to having to use a library pass, which is more restrictive. The library pass, as I understand it, required people to first exhaust other library resources, and then jump through some small hoops to get access to the regular UN library. The regular library card, on the other hand, allowed full and free access. The requirements for a pass were simple, whereas to get a card, a non-governmental organization needed to join itself to the UN as an "Associated NGO". So getting Associated NGO status was simply a convenience.

  I still find this excuse a bunch of crap. Tell me this, what is in the UN library that you can't get anywhere else?

  I am not ripping on you Alan, I have nothing but the upmost respect for you and your posts. It is the WT excuse I am ripping on.
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  StarWars is coming.......

  by ScoobySnax in

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  ...jeez....how much longer..... i can hardly wait.. the best films ever??

  i tink so bruder' .

  quick...my lightsaber.

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  In STAR WARS Obi Wan says that Yoda was his teacher but in Episode 1 his teacher was not Yoda. Whats up with that?
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  Tell Me----Why Do Those Critical Of This Site, Post Here???

  by minimus in

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  any ideas?

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  a friend in need	Re: Tell Me----Why Do Those Critical Of This Site, Post Here???
  Post 222 of 239 since 31-Mar-04	You cute little red dot ... I knew if I suggested this thread, you wouldn't be able to resist. Actually, I am technically a lurker, so you had to change to Critical ones ... it's ok ... I understand ... lol
  IP: /OTxbfpmFxtTsAa6

  Actualy you quit being a "lurker" the second you started posting. And at 239 posts I find it very funny you consider yourself a lurker.
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  Have any of you experienced a spiritual 'dead end'?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  let's face it...most of us were or still are a part of this org.

  because we felt a need to bring some meaning or purpose into our lives.. at the beginning there are lot of things that catch our attention, seem to make sense and feel ourselves progressing as individuals.. upon studying, meditating, pioneering, reaching out for privileges, etc.

  (doing everything the society pushes).

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  I ran into that the day I was born. It took me 22 years to leave.