Hey, sometimes force is necessary. Necessary in Afghanistan and not necessary in Iraq, atleast it wasn't necessary when they did take action. You gotta do what you gotta do.
Atilla
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French MP's ban all overt religious symbols from the classroom
by yxl1 ini must admit, i was happy when the bill was past taken from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3474673.stm
french mps back headscarf ban.
there are about five million muslims living in france
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Atilla
Yeru isn't making up the story about the intern thing but really who cares if it's true or not. The Drudge Report was the first site to break the story about the Lewinsky affair so this story does have some weight behind it. Again, though who cares. If you have power, you are most likely going to use it to get in any girls pants you can find. Not surprising. That's why I thought Kucinich is cool because he's not married and doesn't have to pretend he's faithful like everyone else. Swing baby swing.
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French MP's ban all overt religious symbols from the classroom
by yxl1 ini must admit, i was happy when the bill was past taken from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3474673.stm
french mps back headscarf ban.
there are about five million muslims living in france
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Atilla
As I sorta said, freedom from religion and freedom of religion is very hard to balance. Unfortunately, religion usually wins out and ends up dominating people for the worse. I kinda like China and the Soviet Union for their tough stance on religion-too bad they were ahead of their time. It was the economy of these countries that were so messed up and not necessarily their philosophical viewpoints. Maybe Western style capitalism with Soviet style religious control would be perfect for me. Although I think the name of that country is Sweden where the dubs are in decline-yes!
Most of the world's religions today from Christianity to Islam did not truly take off until after the 2nd century C.E. Why? At that time in history you had two great empires-Rome in the West and the Han empire in the East. Both of these empires who were well advanced for their time period, fell apart due to disease-they lost 2/3 of their population. The people who were still alive were scared and to fill the void they turned to religion. It then took us about 1500 years to get back to where we had started because religion stifled things so much. I think it's kinda sad to think how far advanced we could be if it wasn't for religion dragging us down.
So, no it not armageddon it's just history repeating itself again. No one needs religion to be a better person or a better society. In fact, I don't think the French MP law went far enough.
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Whoelse's heart was broken by the cheesy bean & rice burrito ?
by skiz infrom taco bell .
i became so addicted to them !!
cheesy bean & rice burrito without meat or fiesta sauce ( to eliminate the onions .
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Atilla
Yeah, those bean and rice burritos were great because they were vegatarian. You could also make them vegan friendly by getting rid of the cheese and adding lettuce and tomato. Alas, I guess it's back to the mad cow burgers.
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French MP's ban all overt religious symbols from the classroom
by yxl1 ini must admit, i was happy when the bill was past taken from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3474673.stm
french mps back headscarf ban.
there are about five million muslims living in france
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Atilla
I'm sorry, but I guess I'm totally out on left field with this subject but I still think the scarf law is a good idea. The law is pretty much like a school uniform standard, except it involves religious symbols and that's when people totally freak out- oh my God-they're taking away my religious freedom. Well, I think that history shows that what we need is not more freedom of religion but freedom from religion. Yes, it would be nice if everyone could get along and wear whatever they want but how far should you go. I say let the French remain French. Having been to Paris, I have a feel for the situation that is going on there.
Basically, from what I saw is that lower France and parts of Paris are being overun by muslims. Sure, there are feelings of xenophobia going on here, no doubt, but the French should be able to put some restrictions in place to deal with radicalism. The French government used their power to regulate the Watchtower. They didn't say the org. couldn't practice, all they said is that you have to pay taxes but the watchtower wants to hide behind religion to get a tax free ride-unacceptable-besides how else are they going to benefit society. It's not like the borg. is operating soup kitchens or anything else that would actually help people that need true help.
It's my opinion that if any religious group has too much freedom, they will take advantage of it. They won't ever stop until they have everyone converted wether they are wearing crosses or scarfs. Atleast the French have some idea about the definition between the separation of church and state. Here, in the U.S., various religious groups have direct access to the political powers that be. The various religious groups here in the U.S. already have enough freedom but that is not enough. They want to enforce their wills and beliefs upon others by passing laws and ammendments to the constitution.
This is why religion is so dangerous and why people need protection from religion. This is just one small law to curb in and regulate religion. This law will hardly stop people from practicing their religion but could go a long way in sending the right message about the regulation of religion.
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French MP's ban all overt religious symbols from the classroom
by yxl1 ini must admit, i was happy when the bill was past taken from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3474673.stm
french mps back headscarf ban.
there are about five million muslims living in france
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Atilla
I really like this law, the French are taking the lead in doing away with religious stupidity. We need some laws like this in our country but religion is too protected and religions use the umbrella of religioun to get away with far too many things. I think the most important thing about this law is protecting the rights of the girls who have to wear these silly head coverings. While some girls may like wearing the head coverings, I'm sure a lot of girls have to wear the head covers because of parental influence. So, if for 8 hours a day they can go without the head coverings, I say great. This will give these muslim girls a taste of freedom they otherwise would never have. Then, one day maybe they can grow up to be free of religion. I wish there was a law saying that I had to get involved in school sports or plays- that I couldn't just socially withdrawal because I was told all the "worldly" people at my school were bad for me.
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Virginity goes for £8,400 ($15,687) at auction
by Elsewhere inhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bristol/somerset/3473817.stm
virginity auction ends on net
a lesbian at the university of bristol who is selling her virginity on the internet has closed the bidding.
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Atilla
Hey, you got do what you got to do, it just goes to show how messed up the education system is in the U.K., let alone here in the U.S. Maybe her parents are dubs and didn't think it was worth planning for the future-oh, kinda like my parents. My parents still are not planning for the future and my only fear is that 10 years from now they will expect my help because they didn't think planning for retirement was a good idea. I just wonder what this girl will sell next year when she runs out of money. Maybe her anal virginity or does the 15K this time get you everything?
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Elders searching for long disassociated ones
by Gretchen956 ini have heard of a couple cases in the last year where this happened, and i wonder if its happened to anyone else.. one of my acquaintances from another list moved from portland back to his homestate of maine.
he moved to a small town near the town where he was associated, but had not been associated for over 12 years.
the elders tracked him down after all that time and said they wanted to have a committee meeting so that they could disfellowship him.
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Atilla
This policy of hunting inactive people down began last year in earnest to coincide with the memorial. This was official policy that I believe was stated in the Kingdom Ministry-although the official reason for hunting ones down was to see if they needed "help" which was more like a way to see what you were truly doing. Well, I was targeted and sure enough two elders showed up at my house, even though I live an hour away from my old kingdom hall. I'm so priviledged and grateful that these two men drove an hour just to spy on me. Well, I was sleeping and my wife didn't wake me, darn it. Although, she did easily dispatch them in a orderly fashion. They just wanted to know what I was up to-any dirt they could find-nothing would please them more. They were surprised when my wife told them that we had just bought our house not too long ago and that I was going to college. Funny, they didn't really have anything to say about that-hum-why would I go crawling back to them.
Lately, I feel like I might start to challenge the elders and my old kingdom hall. I wonder just how much I could get away with-how much apostasy could I do-how much damage could I inflict before some one would challenge me. Right now since I've faded and they have nothing on me-I feel invincible. I say look out-it's my time to hunt some people down.
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Atilla
How about you send Bush and his entire family to Saudi Arabia, after all Bush Senior was having breakfast with the Bin Laden on the morning of 9/11-coicidence? They could start a new oil company together like they did back in the 80's and live happily ever after until of course the company goes bankrupt like all the other oil companies the Bushies owned.
BushLaden Oil Co. Sounds Great and I'm sure the watchtower will buy stock.
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Atilla
I agree, I think the Bush team is getting a little desparate with their slipping numbers. Yesterday, Bush did one of his few interviews on Meet the Press with Tim Russert and he just sounded awful. Plus, he didn't answer any of the questions put to him, he just mumbled, stammered, and repeated himself like a broken record. I tell you what Simon, we'll get rid of Bush if you get rid of Blair-he's almost as bad as Bush.