They emphasize proper pronunciation far more than actually learning anything.
dothemath
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Elders are no longer teachers
by eyeslice inback in the day when i was a young witness lad, you very much got the impression that at least the training as theocratic teachers was good.. even the bible reading back then had a short introduction and conclusion.
you had to research and prepare your own ministry school talks and then perhaps you would graduate to a half of a 55 minute public talk.
then later if you were a book study conductor, you got to decide which scriptures to read and highlight.
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Newtons prediction for end of the world
by dothemath inmaybe this man (sir isaac newton), has more credibility than fred franz in picking a date for armageddon ?.
interestingly, newton(brilliant mathematician, everyone must know him) was very interested in the bible and revelation .. .
what newton tried to do was determine a particular timescale for the apocalypse.
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dothemath
Maybe this man (Sir Isaac Newton), has more credibility than Fred Franz in picking a date for Armageddon ?
Interestingly, Newton(brilliant mathematician, everyone must know him) was very interested in the bible and revelation .
What Newton tried to do was determine a particular timescale for the apocalypse. For him, this wording suggested a period of 1,260 days (a number seemingly used elsewhere in the Bible), which he adapted to mean 1,260 years for his purposes. With that decided, he had another pressing question to answer: The world would end 1,260 years from when?
Newton wrote (per Ancient Code) that A.D. 800 (the year Charlemagne created the Holy Roman Empire) would be a perfect year to begin counting from. Using 1,260 years gives us an end date of, yes, 2060.
So now we know! Interested to hear your thoughts.
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Beards- just told by an elder
by dothemath ini know this subject has been talked about lots over the years, just thought i would share a recent finding from canada.. while visiting with a group of friends, an elder (don’t recall how the subject came up) mentioned the local body had voted to allow brothers with beards be allowed to give talks from the platform.
(it was a very close vote).
the direction given was for each congregation to decide for themselves if that is now acceptable.. so some congregations will be for, and for many it will not.. it’ll probably be a long time before we see any pictures on the watchtower where they’re allowing this though..
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dothemath
I know this subject has been talked about lots over the years, just thought I would share a recent finding from Canada.
While visiting with a group of friends, an elder (don’t recall how the subject came up) mentioned the local body had voted to allow brothers with beards be allowed to give talks from the platform. (It was a very close vote)
The direction given was for each congregation to decide for themselves if that is now acceptable.
So some congregations will be for, and for many it will not.
It’ll probably be a long time before we see any pictures on the watchtower where they’re allowing this though.
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Will there be enough good questions on JWD now that minimus is gone?
by slimboyfat ina thread in honour of our departed friend minimus.
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dothemath
He was a remarkable person, with such a variety of interests. Certainly will be missed.
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Don’t Trust the Courts! Splane’s Latest Anti-Apostate Talk
by StephaneLaliberte indavid splane’s talk “put up a hard fight for the faith” was that last talk presented on the saturday of the annual convention.
this talk was to largely address apostates and restated ideas and arguments often presented before.
however, this year, watchtower is spending more time in disqualifying negative findings originating from secular courts and here is the segment of interest here: .
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dothemath
Some of these court cases have been reported on in very prominent newspapers. I recall some of the verdicts (multi-million dollar lawsuits) being printed in the New York Times.
I think the Candace Conti case made the news in well-known California newspapers.
If they were all wrong, the wt would no doubt sue them for huge sums of money.
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Statistics not looking good
by dothemath instatistics have always been huge for the borg.
a couple of decades ago there were about 1200 people baptized every day as witnesses (on average).. a few years ago the co was glowing about 800 ones baptized per day.
he didn’t mention this was actually a big drop).
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dothemath
- Statistics have always been huge for the borg. A couple of decades ago there were about 1200 people baptized every day as witnesses (on average).
- A few years ago the CO was glowing about 800 ones baptized per day. He didn’t mention this was actually a big drop)
- The wife just sat in on the CO visit recently, and he gave the stat about 241992 people baptized in 2020.
- That equals about 661 people per day on average. (Admittedly that’s a co-vid year, might be an anomaly) (also divided for a leap year)
- Realistically though, I think it’s going to stay on the downward trend.
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dothemath
I watched the Leah Remini specials on scientology, and was surprised at the levels they were willing to go to against any opposition.
Even worse than witnesses.
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Are You Satisfied To Let The Government Take Care of You?
by minimus insome people want limited government involvement in their lives.
the less government, the happier they are.
others feel there’s not enough government intervention.
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dothemath
Wall Street bankers are all about capitalism, and less government intervention, until the 2008 meltdown.
They gladly accepted the 700 billion dollar handout, going to mostly millionaires.
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Funeral talk
by dothemath ini was recently present at a witness funeral (by zoom) and the brother did do a nice talk about this sister who passed away.
her and her husband had pioneered for many years, but she succumbed to cancer.. in his closing remarks, of course he talked about the resurrection, and remarked how the husband (still alive) would soon be back together with his wife.. certainly fine thoughts, but imagine if this guy ended up getting remarried?
isn’t that putting a lot of pressure on someone, when it isn’t even mentioned in the bible at all?.
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dothemath
I was recently present at a witness funeral (by zoom) and the brother did do a nice talk about this sister who passed away. Her and her husband had pioneered for many years, but she succumbed to cancer.
In his closing remarks, of course he talked about the resurrection, and remarked how the husband (still alive) would soon be back together with his wife.
Certainly fine thoughts, but imagine if this guy ended up getting remarried? Isn’t that putting a lot of pressure on someone, when it isn’t even mentioned in the bible at all?
If anything, the bible says the exact opposite (Jesus answering the Sadduccees). Even in all the pictures we see in the literature, I don’t think they show husbands welcoming back their wives ( I could be mistaken).
I know of one widow whose husband died several years ago, and she certainly looks forward to being reunited with him. (She is still quite young)
I know a lot of witnesses put their lives on hold for the organization, but this seems to only add more tragedy to a death in the family.
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Do You Believe In A “Deep State”?
by minimus inor do you think the idea of a deep state is malarkey?
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