Posts by prophecor

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I'm on the Outside Looking In

by prophecor in

before baptism, outsiders are never viewed as having quite made the grade of fully fledged brotherhood, in fact, when greeted in the kingdom hall, many of us, especially if not raised in " the truth", were often made to know this fact merely by the words we were greeted with, or how we were acknowledged in meetings, for instance, when commenting at the watchtower study.

"mr anderson" as opposed to "brother mitchell", was to me a sense of arrogance to be tolerated until having made the final cut from intrested person to non-baptized publisher to baptismal candidate and finally baptized brother.

are these word games that can be associated with cultlike phenomenom, that of being jw and the status received after baptism?

prophecor

Before baptism, outsiders are never viewed as having quite made the grade of fully fledged brotherhood, in fact, when greeted in the Kingdom Hall, many of us, especially if not raised in " The Truth", were often made to know this fact merely by the words we were greeted with, or how we were acknowledged in meetings, for instance, when commenting at the Watchtower study.

"Mr Anderson" as opposed to "Brother Mitchell", was to me a sense of arrogance to be tolerated until having made the final cut from intrested person to non-baptized publisher to baptismal candidate and finally baptized brother.

Are these word games that can be associated with cultlike phenomenom, that of being JW and the status received after baptism?

Did anyone else feel pressured into taking the plunge, in order to no longer be be deemed an outsider or an outcast?

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Roadrunner Vs. DSL (vs. Dialup)

by AlmostAtheist in

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hey guys,.

we have roadrunner and i'm so disappointed in it i could scream.

when it works, it really is fast.

prophecor

Well Said Q

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Roadrunner Vs. DSL (vs. Dialup)

by AlmostAtheist in

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hey guys,.

we have roadrunner and i'm so disappointed in it i could scream.

when it works, it really is fast.

prophecor

DSL is great, I've been a subscriber in the past to road runner service, its OK, but for about $20.00 less, I get reliable service, I truly can't judge the difference in speed because the DSL is so fast that any wait, if any, is so small that you're likely not to pay it any mind. I pay my phone bill and DSL service all in one sweep.

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Best Of British Sports Cars.

by Englishman in

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an mgb, an mg midget, 3 sunbeam alpines and an austin healey frog-eye.. 'course, some years back, the wicked americans put out a rumour that soft-tops were to be outlawed in the usa.

which meant that the uk sports car industry would take a massive body-blow to it's exports.

so, in true kamikaze style, the brits sports cars companies started producing absolute garbage with fixed tops so's they could continue with their exports... cars like the jaguar xjs.

prophecor

Hi EMan, I've not had the pleasure of meeting you but your quite a popular favorite on the board and I usually get quite a kick out of your post.

Glad see your well enough to get back on board.

Though not a fancier of the classics, mind you except the 60's XKE's, as it it is that I am an unfortunate American, I do fancy that TVR Griffith 500 thats a star in your country, but I can only drive here in the states on the Playstation 2, Gran Turismo 3 driving simulator. If you have yet to experience the thrill of this game, as it is you recover from surgery, it can be a wonderful means of passing time.

I am first and formost a car nut earliest of age to remember.

Good to see above board.

I Wish U Well !

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Love in my heart finally achieved!!!(kinda long)I

by Neophulis in

this is my first post and i wanted to say that i've been reading this site for about 2 or 3 weeks now on and off.

my experiences are nowhere near as deep as many of people on these forums but i did study the jw/watchtower material for about 2 1/2 years starting when i was like 15. i kept many of those beliefs with me even after i stopped studying on a regular basis around the year 2000. i'm 22 now and it wasn't until very recently that i was finally realizing the grim reality of the jw religion.

i guess you could call that "new light"... .

prophecor

Hi Neophillus and welcome.

Its truly amazing to hear your story, mine is almost a mirror representation of yours, down to the drugs, the friends you thought controlled by demonic forces, the paranoia from the drugs, though mine resulted in what was called in the 70's, a full blown nervous breakdown, with a 17 year revolving door history of being in and out of psychiatric institutions of various sorts.

To hear you tell it reminds me of the fear, horror and terror I always had before coming to this site and gaining the Secret Knowledge here about the true nature and origin of being JW's.

It took almost half of my life to get here, please make good use of your time by throughly investigating the history of the organization, you cannot comprehend the seriousness of the major life issues that will confront you, without the getting the most accurate of understanding regarding being JW.

You appear to be in a good space.

I wish you all the sucess in the world.

PhessUP

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We Live in a Fractal???

by frankiespeakin in

i was thinking lately about the manderbrolt fractal and other fractals as well.

and how every design of nature is able to be reproduced by fractals.

these pictures of the manderbrolt set,, display a remarkable scale that makes you "feel depth",,, with things getting bigger or smaller.

prophecor

The randomness that is coincidence.

Or at least one would think is something so much more than mere coincidence.

While going to my fathers gravesite on the anniversary of his death, I wrecked my 79' Caddy I had just invested mad time polishing and waxing the day before.

Because I was going to college at the time, thru financial aide, there was a check waiting for me when I limped my tired, tortured child home. I immediately went to get another car the same day, I couldn't just attribute that to coincidence.

There is often times beauty and structure found in the sacredness of chaos and confussion.

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Just a thought-Has anyone ever wondered?

by redhotchilipepper in

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maybe if there is a god, that maybe he doesn't want us to know who he is?

maybe he only wants to know us through prayer.

maybe the bible is a hoax?

prophecor

I've truly wondered about the knowledge thats available thru other sources than the Bible.

Yoga, Buhddist beliefs, even some the wisdom in Islam.

Looking at the cultural and religious divide, there appear to be more serenity, depth of character, knowledge and wisdom beyond those who submit and subject themselves to the status quo of Christianity.

The strength that can be found in the spiritual that is Oriental in nature is something of pacific beauty. I have always wished to be able to take much of that same energy onto myself.

Restricting ourselves to Bible teaching alone leaves a sizeable portion of the rest of humanity in a vacuum, leaving no opportunity whatsoever for growth and keeping ourselves locked in a state of ignorance, much like the belief that their is no life in the universe apart from what exist on this planet.

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We Live in a Fractal???

by frankiespeakin in

i was thinking lately about the manderbrolt fractal and other fractals as well.

and how every design of nature is able to be reproduced by fractals.

these pictures of the manderbrolt set,, display a remarkable scale that makes you "feel depth",,, with things getting bigger or smaller.

prophecor

Can U Spell Synchronicity???

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We Live in a Fractal???

by frankiespeakin in

i was thinking lately about the manderbrolt fractal and other fractals as well.

and how every design of nature is able to be reproduced by fractals.

these pictures of the manderbrolt set,, display a remarkable scale that makes you "feel depth",,, with things getting bigger or smaller.

prophecor

There is, yes, a method in the middle of the madness.

Sacred Chaos.

I Believe, I Believe!!!

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New to the forum

by Poztate in

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i don't know about the rest of you but i seem to see newbies popping up all over the place.

i love it.

i think it would be helpful to have a new listing for newbies to introduce themselves.would there be any problems with this and would it help or hinder the board?

prophecor

Though technically not a newbie, I still consider myself one as I have only recently been able to return here because my computer got one hell of a virus, I've been making up for lost time however.

Though I guess I never properly introduced myself as others so politely have, I guess I'll start here.

I was led here to this site about one year ago, about to return to studying with the witnesses, after being inactive for nearly ten years. I was still awash with the impending doom that would be visited upon me if I didn't return to the KH, field service, personal study and the like. Guilt, fear and trepidation was the stuff of my life as well as feeling that I had commited the unforgivable sin. Going against your bible trained conscience, willful disobedience, not returning to the flock.

After being led here, I was given some pretty disturbing information regarding JW's organization, information that I initially believed to be lies. I was horrified as I went to seek out the sites available, having heard all the talk about apostate sites, apostasy, apostates...I was scared to death,...but I got beyond it, especially when the brother who was coming to study with me, some how miraculously never showed up. I looked inside freeminds.org and was just about nearly floored with the information that was there. Over time I did the bargaining, denial, depression and I forget the other steps that you do when grieving the death of someone you love, or in this case, the death of something you once believed. I was in a spiritual limbo for months after visiting this site, then, somehow, the storm stopped, I was able to get thru, it became necessary to do an investigation regarding my beliefs, Ray Franz CoC was purchased and devoured on an almost daily basis, and after more suffering thru the pain of the WTBTS's past, I , after about a year, was able to get some balance regarding my past belief and taking an objective view of all that I had thought was truth, at least according to the Jehovah's Witnesses.

I still suffer thru some of the remorse of things done in my past, I do however have a better footing on how to get above and beyond my life in the truth. I know I'll probably never return to a KH, or serve Jehovah in the way that JW's do, but I'll have to answer to Jehovah for that.

As grace and mercy appears to have been a hallmark in my life, as to my past, although now still troubled, that same grace and mercy that appears to have followed me during even my most darkest of days, still seems to seek me out at these times being out and my fear of being out here in this world alone is nowhere near as disturbing as it was before coming to experience this site, and so many of the wonderful experiences, as well as the all too disturbing ones that so many here have to share.

PhessUP