just a quick "thank you" for all that showed up at tony roma's last night.. mr. cb and i had a great time meeting all of you!
it was a wonderful experience to put the "face" with the poster.. to any of you out there that have never attended a meetup---please do not hesitate on going.
it is worth the effort.
I second that emotion!!
It was such a great evening ... I think there were something like 22 people there! A couple of people took lots of pictures, so I'm sure they will show up.
Thanks to Gretchen956 for organizing it and thanks to Onacruse and Bikerchic for giving me a ride. I feel very grateful to have found this website and to be presented with the opportunity to build a community with people who have some of my same experiences.
p.s. nice to meet you Mr. and Ms. codeblue
is very similar to
herman munster.
but looks aside, moscow is worried that kerry may defeat bush and the seemingly good relations between russia and the u.s built up by putin and bush could fade away.
Kerry is a real piece of work.
If folks new anything about him, he wouldn't even be in consideration for the democratic nomination.
Why not provide the details that you base this on? I'm not necessarily a big Kerry fan, but this was a pretty broad statement with no background.
Also, I pity the person who eventually will follow Bush whether this year or in 4 years (please, please NO). The job of picking up the pieces and rebuilding US of A's reputation in the world will be a huge task and most likely impossible to complete in a 4 year term.
And I do agree, what the heck do looks have with anything? Hell we've got the ghost of Alfred E. Neuman in there now, but if he could do the job well I wouldn't give a damn.
who has the real truth then ?.
i found this forum last year and since then i have read many posts.
many people are still eager to quote from the bible etc.its almost as if they are still jw's.
double edge:
I think Nadsame might have been commenting on my previous post.
it's a safe bet that if you were raised as a jw, or if you came into it early in life, you have some strange ideas about money and finances.
the wt for decades made even minimal post-secondary education utterly taboo and only recently has capitulated that "some" extra schooling might be neccessary (associate degrees good, bachelors degrees bad).
the average youth raised a jw has little understanding of investment due to the apocalyptic worldview of the organization (why invest in a dying system when the big "a" is right around the corner?).
don't think the question was how to get rich....
or did I miss it?
it's a safe bet that if you were raised as a jw, or if you came into it early in life, you have some strange ideas about money and finances.
the wt for decades made even minimal post-secondary education utterly taboo and only recently has capitulated that "some" extra schooling might be neccessary (associate degrees good, bachelors degrees bad).
the average youth raised a jw has little understanding of investment due to the apocalyptic worldview of the organization (why invest in a dying system when the big "a" is right around the corner?).
I actually had a reasonably good mind in high school. Was strongly promoted to attend college, but parents refused. So luckily I took some basic courses that helped create an ability to at least earn some decent earning power as a young woman (typing, project management, computer courses).
Upon leaving JWs and beginning to think about $ and career, I did some research around best places to work, companies that promote from within, balanced approach towards women, reimbursed tuition.
Zeroed in on financial services (banking) as there were multiple opportunities in a variety of fields....human resources, training, marketing, fin'l management, facilities, systems....on and on... a person could complete their studies (underwritten by the company) and zero in on a specialty within the company as you moved on. Many of these areas are transferrable outside of banking/fin'l services too, so you aren't limited there. A large bank was even better---more opportunities.
I worked for Citibank for a number of years, went back to school while there, and grew a decent career. Identifying and maintaining a relationship with a mentor was also key. Since then I have also worked in other institutions, studied for and obtained a Series 7 license, and now work in a management level position overseeing call centers. This is something that could be done in other industries. I also obtained experience in bank branch management, gen'l departmental operations, etc.(all good "fall back" possibilities for employment). So I think my approach worked in my favor.
I would urge individuals not to let the lack of a degree discourage them. I accomplished quite a bit of progress prior to completing my degree, and hands-on experience vs. education evens out as you move up in business.
Hell, Bill Gates has done okay without one! as have countless others!
Interesting thread, B - well done
i just re-enlisted in the army today.
i now have an indefinite contract...i'm officially a career military hack.. salute.
i am an american soldier.
who has the real truth then ?.
i found this forum last year and since then i have read many posts.
many people are still eager to quote from the bible etc.its almost as if they are still jw's.
wednesday --
Of course, that assumes that God Is.
i knew some parents who really beat the hell out of their kids.
anyone else remember this?
seems like when i was a kid, you could'nt go to a meeting without hearing screams of pain from either the b room or the bathrooms.
My heart is heavy after reading this. Mostly because I share the memories, both of observing abuse and being victim of it.
It also saddens me to read posts by moms here whose ex-husbands took their children out to beat. I'm glad they are exes. But it also makes me so sad and somewhat confused to understand how one could do that. I harbor ill will towards my own mother because she stood by and watched terrible things happen to me as a child. Once I became a mother and as my children grew and my understanding of my responsbilities grew too, I never understood how my mother could have been the willing observer she was.
I wish I had the means to wipe away the pain expressed here, to somehow avert future pain for all of those helpless children still trapped in this ungodly cult. It so frustrates me that no one can stand up for them, just as no one did for me.
who has the real truth then ?.
i found this forum last year and since then i have read many posts.
many people are still eager to quote from the bible etc.its almost as if they are still jw's.
IMO, asking 'who has the real truth then' indicates you are carrying remnants of JW cult doctrine, as well as many other religions, in that you are expecting there is THE truth or one truth.
Consider the possibility that one doctrinal truth does not exist. Rather individuals create their own truth with ongoing discovery through life experience, defined personal values and priorities that apply to their individual needs and situation.
The teaching of one truth allows subjugation through fear, control, manipulation, arrogance, judgemental thought.
after considerable discussion on where to go, lots of good advice, several attempts at reservations that did not pan out, i have finally reserved a place for dinner.. anyone in or near the seattle area please join us on february 7, 2004 at 6:30 p.m. at tony roma's at southcenter.
for those coming in from out of town, southcenter is located close to where i-5 and i-405 meet south of seattle.
type in this address into mapqwest or into yahoo maps or whatever other mapping program you use:.
craig and kate:
did you decide on a driving time for tomorrow? K
