Although Sullivan County (I believe that is the county that the farm lies in....could be Orange though) doesn't love the Society because of its tax-free status, Wallkill offers much more expansion opportunity then Brooklyn and less 'diversions' for the brothers & sisters who slave work there. Also, like another poster mentioned, the Society has realized that the Brooklyn property is prime real estate that can be sold for quite a pretty sum.
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Reasons for Moving to Wallkill ?
by robhic ini read a while back about selling the brooklyn facility and moving the printing operations to wallkill (???).
i know it's all about money for the wts, but what reasons did they give for actually going through this involved, expensive process when, bottom line, the end is soon and everything is gonna be killed and destroyed?
why not just "wait on jehovah?".
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Are You Still Torn, Wondering Whether You Made The Right Decision To Leave?
by minimus inare you 100% sure you're doing the right thing??
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I just wish that I had been more diplomatic in telling my mom so I could get her to listen to the things I learned about the Society...otherwise, hell no. In fact, I wished I had done this back in high school before I got caught up & baptized.
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Will there be winter in the new system?
by Atilla inso much snow this winter, but it reminds me of the silly conversations we would have out in service about conditions in the new system.
this one guy, who thought he knew everything because he had been to bethel and had been pioneering since the 9th grade, was positive that there would be no winter in the new system.
his reasoning was that since the whole earth would be made into a paradise with perfect conditions, there would be no real cold places like russia or even central pennsylvania.
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cypher50
I hate people who try to 'prove' idiocy like this...he doesn't even take into account that many feel that winter is a beautiful time of year. I for one love watching snow cover everything in site...he probably also thinks that it won't rain in the 'new system'.
Boy, I have only disassociated myself a month & a half ago and I am already laughing at the craziness that I discussed while I was a Witness.
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Do you ever mention to anyone you were a JW ??? or keep it secret ???
by run dont walk in.
workmates, friends, school friends etc,.
do you ever mention it, or if someone asks you your religion, do you ever mention it, or keep it in your past ??
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When growing up, I didn't tell people I was a JW but I lived in a small community so it was pretty easy to discern with me going to meetings & service all the time. Now, when people get into a religious conversation with me, I do mention it because it gives them a background on my views...I consider it a life experience and although it is painful I still consider it something that is rightfully mine to tell others. Besides, telling other people about it will prevent them from getting wrapped up in it...
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Proposed UN Resolution Would Effectively Ban Religion
by Garnet inthis is a few days off the wire, but in case you haven't read it yet:.
proposed un resolution would effectively ban religion .
a draft resolution which aims to secure global peace and stability at the expense of organized religion is today being submitted to the united nations in new york.. new york, ny (prweb) january 27, 2004 -- a draft resolution which aims to secure global peace and stability at the expense of organized religion is today being submitted to the united nations in new york.
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Sheesh, I didn't know that a proposal as silly as this would get so much attention...no country in the world would condone this anyway. I wonder if people out there actually believe that the UN would approve that resolution...
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"Immortal Soul" - A Watchtower Doctrine!
by Stephanus inin my 25 years or so in "christendom" i've been to many different churches in different denominations and have heard hundreds, perhaps thousands, of sermons.
in all that time i have never heard the term "immortal soul" used, not even once.
yet the jws go on (and on, and on!
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As far as I know -- all of Christendom and Islam believe in Hell -- and they believe it to be fiery -- so what you say is not quite true
Not true...from my reading up on different religions such as Catholicism, Hell to them is the same as what JWs believe: eternal death. They explain that Hellfire was just a metaphor for the torment of being seperated from God's grace (even though, if you are dead, you wouldn't know anyway). Some Catholic scholars still teach the classic Hellfire doctrine but most go for the more 'sensible' explanation. I can't speak for Islam though....
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CALL TO ACTION: Write the United Nations!
by seattleniceguy inmost of us are familiar with the watchtower bible and tract society's association with the un as an ngo.
this fact has been confirmed via correspondence with the un numerous times, notably in a letter received recently by one of our own members.
for details and photocopies, see here:.
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cypher50
I think that we are handling this in the wrong way...we should be writing the media and not the United Nations. Think about it: why hasn't a news program like 60 Minutes or 20/20 done a segment on this yet? I remember when a program did a segment on the child abuse issue and many Witnesses didn't know about that...imagined if a news magazine did a segment on the UN scandal. I wonder who we would have to write to for that...
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``New Things Learned:" Cookie-Cutter Assembly Halls?
by Room 215 injust got a glance at wifey's latest two kingdom ministry letters she left lying around.
i see now that the boys in brooklyn/patterson have now decided ``one size fits all" is the best way to go when erecting future assembly halls; they've standardized the look.
a cost-saving ploy no doubt.
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They have been moving towards this for a long time...look at any recent Kingdom Hall and there might be slight differences but most of the major architectural designs are the same. So utilitarian & ugly IMO...plus, not enough windows (what is up with that?).
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WT CD rom
by simplesally ini now have a pc again.
i had gotten rid of the wt cd because i had a mac ................ can anyone get me a cd-rom?
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Hmmm...why doesn't someone just make an ISO image of the 2001 CD if they have it and then send that?
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Elder Cleared of Fondling
by Doubtfully Yours inelder cleared of fondling .
by cp .
brandon, man.
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Not only does he have to live down the stigma of being a pervert in the public's eye but also among the JW's (if he chooses to stay a JW)...it is better to investigate all claims like this of course but it is so saddening when the person could be innocent and has to go through this...