And precisely how are you related to Brownboy?
Wallflower
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Bible Prophecy of 9/11
by AshtonCA inwas wondering if anyone else knew 9/11 was going to happen before it did?
my mother, when leaving the org.
back in the early 90's began researching the bible (not the nwt because it was too flawed), she used the kjv and the niv, she also used strongs and a bible that had both greek and hebrew in it right along side the english.
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2004 Numbers are on WT web site it looks like.
by garybuss inhttp://www.watchtower.org/statistics/worldwide_report.htm.
can anyone confirm this is what it looks like?
i may be delivering old news.
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Wallflower
Armageddon won't come for 2,500 years at the very least - I can prove it using their figures!!!
Follow the Maths :
Assume that for the good news to be preached throughout the inhabited earth that each person is given say 5 minutes - any shorter and it wouldn't be a proper witness.
Take Bangladesh. Population 141,340,476. If each person was given 5 minutes that would take 706,702,380 minutes which is 58,891,865 hours. According to the table they are only doing 23,085 hours a year, so at this rate it'll take over 2,551 years to witness to all of them. The Watchtowers new date is 4556 AD.
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Wallflower
I wonder if the Police Sargeant in the article, earlier in his career was "Deputy Doug".
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Sometimes ya just need a giggle
by beebee intoo many trolls here lately, y'all need a giggle.
i got an email today with a bunch of funny bumper stickers but this one seemed so appropriate for this board.
seemed like it could apply to door knocking and trolling apostate websites.. okay, i thought i could post the image but i can't because i can't remember my password for ftp to my website (don't ask...lol) and i guess only pictures that can be plugged in have to be links to pics (makes sense now that i know it has to be on some web server).
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Wallflower
Atheism is myth understood.
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DNA - belief destuction
by donkey inthe single largest reason to decimate my belief in jw?s and all biblical faith occurred when i discovered some facts about our cells.
specifically a part of the cell called mitochondria.
mitochondria are sometimes described as "cellular power plants" because their primary purpose is to manufacture adenosine triphosphate (atp), which is used as a source of energy that the cell uses.. as humans one inherits one?s mitochondria only from one's mother, this finding implies that all living humans have a female line of descent from a woman whom researchers have dubbed mitochondrial eve.
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Wallflower
AC & Delta, you have me at a disadvantage, I have no faith in God or the Bible. We stand on different planes.
"-If we then have to render an account for our lives to God, as the Bible tells us we will, there is nothing we will then be able to quote from a science book that will convince God that we deserve to be given eternal life."
There is no God and when I die it will be all over. I have experienced nothing in my 40 years on this planet that would even hint otherwise. No faith.
"-In my opinion DNA doesnt destroy my believe, on the contrary, it encourages it!"
What did I say about shoehorning modern wisdom to fit beliefs? ;-)
"-Wallflower, I think you believe in this science. And what you are saying about faith, which can make you believe in anything, also stands for faith in science."
Good point, but science is not a religion. We do not pray and trust in Jehovah to get a laboratory experiment to work. Results do not differ because of faith, or lack of it, in a experiment. Whereas the Bible is open to any interpretation you put on it. You can find a scripture to fit anything and vice versa. In 20 years time, when other great leaps in scientific advancement have occured and our knowledge has grown, there will be apologists who will still find a scripture to prove the Bible hinted at it first.
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DNA - belief destuction
by donkey inthe single largest reason to decimate my belief in jw?s and all biblical faith occurred when i discovered some facts about our cells.
specifically a part of the cell called mitochondria.
mitochondria are sometimes described as "cellular power plants" because their primary purpose is to manufacture adenosine triphosphate (atp), which is used as a source of energy that the cell uses.. as humans one inherits one?s mitochondria only from one's mother, this finding implies that all living humans have a female line of descent from a woman whom researchers have dubbed mitochondrial eve.
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Wallflower
We have ground breaking scientific research which produces statistical results, which can be logically interpreted to produce a probable picture of human history. The results then the hypothesis.
Not the other way round. Apologists start off with a unprovable, simplistic story of Judiastic origin (that these are copies of much older Babylonian and Caananite legends is ignored) and try to shoehorn modern thinking and wisdom to fit their belief. They forget that they are endowed with copious amounts of faith, which can make you believe anything, no matter how unlikely, regardless of facts to the contrary.
A Christian, I respect your right to believe but your "leap of faith" gives you an unfair advantage over us non-believers.
Give me a modern scientific journal any day, rather than one scripture from your Holy books.
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Biblical Astronomy Software
by VM44 ini am interested in recreating astronomical events like solar and lunar eclipses that took place during biblical times.
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does anyone know of some good pc astronomy software that could could be used to recreate such events?.
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Wallflower
You could try :
http://www.fourmilab.ch/yoursky/#Telescope
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Annointed: yearly figures
by DaCheech in.
is it my imagination.... or did the numbers of "annointed" partaking in the lords evening meal go up by 5 people this year?.
what explanation can make any sense at all about this?
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Wallflower
If you ignore actual numbers from Elsewhere's chart and look at the percentage change against the previous year the picture looks different.
Heres the graph :
It looks like every down is matched with an up. In fact the figures say that there has been 30 up years, one stationary year and only 13 down.
I thought they were supposed to be dying off.
Any statisticians here care to examine trends? Can the ups and downs correlate with events or politics within the Org?
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Sex And Baal.
by Englishman ini was recalling yesterday with a newbie -ex how some dub folk liken the sex act to baal worship.. we had one chappie in our congregation who would forever be admonishing us that partaking in oral sex or anal sex (why are they always bracketed together by jw's?
) were in themselves an act of baal worship even if one was legally married to the initiator / recipient.. i don't get it.
(the point of view, not the sex) anyone else come across this one?.
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Wallflower
The JWs and their obsession with their asherah pole. They just can't help thinking about what they might be missing.
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Annointed: yearly figures
by DaCheech in.
is it my imagination.... or did the numbers of "annointed" partaking in the lords evening meal go up by 5 people this year?.
what explanation can make any sense at all about this?
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Wallflower
There are actually a lot more anointed alive than the figures show. It's the fact that they are now so old that when they are at the memorial they forget where they are and don't remember to partake of the bread and the wine and so they don't get counted.