any johnny cash fans here?
if not, shame on the forum!
the late, great johnny cash was born and raised in arkansas, and by the time he was a mere 12 years of age, he was already writing his own songs.
Johnny Cash song,,,,"Hurt",
FYI, that is a cover of a NIN song...and Johnny said the same thing when he heard Reznor's version...he said it sounded like a song he would have wrote when he was younger.
My favorite Cash track is probably Rusty Cage, but he also covers one of my all time favorite's "I See A Darkness" originally by Bonnie Prince Billy.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040504/ap_en_ce/music_prince&e=1
can anyone read between the lines here?
while prince stresses he holds no bitterness, he clearly does not hold the music industry with much regard.
I don't know Stephanie, if they're still alternately defending Michael Jackson, I don't think Prince's misbehavior will make much an impression. Hope I'm wrong, but JWs have nothing if not thick skins.
How are they defending MJ? I've never heard a JW defend him...
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I don't believe you should scar someone for life.
Agreed, but 5 years in prison? For fighting back against a bully? Bullying can cause life long emotional scars much more damaging than a physical scar from a pencil.
i do.
but i also thought, nixon, reagan and clinton were going to get re-elected.
Sorry, didn't mean to insult. I just can't fathom how people can think the US is the "good guys." Maybe its a lack of understanding US history, or at least from a perspective other than "we're the good guys." Even today our high school textbooks are still very Euro-centric and US-Centric.
i did a search and couldn't find another post on this subject, so i hope this hasn't been addressed too recently already.... i systematically throw away wtbts literature that i find in public places (restrooms, and most recently, eight, count 'em, eight mags at the train station that had about 20 chairs in it (four sets of the same magazines--someone had a good month!
) i rolled them up and deposited them into the trash, my father was shocked and said that people should be given the chance to read them.
i said i was saving people from exposure from a cult.
I think it is presumptious to throw them away. Because you do not agree with something does not give you the right to deny it to others or the authority to "protect" them from information. It's called censorship, unless, of course, it is your property that they are left on.
i do.
but i also thought, nixon, reagan and clinton were going to get re-elected.
yes, there is a remarkable difference in the two. And frankly if you think it's ok for a guy like Saddam to do these things to innocent people, then I don't even care to interact with you any further.
I don't think anyone thinks that...we're just not as dellusional as some to see Bush and the current US admin as the humanitarian "good guys" as others see them.
i do.
but i also thought, nixon, reagan and clinton were going to get re-elected.
Is Cheney still alive?
both have endorsed pepsi.
both are excellent entertainers.
both have appeared on "punk'd".
They are both horrible...but as long as they keep the masses from hogging the REAL music out there, then I guess they serve a purpose.
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with the help of my father and our right-wing friends in the oil.
i am the first president in u.s. history to have the united nations.
bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public.
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under
the influence of alcohol. And he owned up to it...and has quit drinking
Good for him, but I'd prefer a cleaner slate for the man running the country.
I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended
for 30 days. Which was about the most common punishmet back then
See above.
My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available. Records NEVER get lost...right?
No, they don't, especially from the DMV. How many people have you heard of getting a clean driving slate because their driving record was "lost?" I'm sure the insurance companies would love that.
MILITARY:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. A B.S. claim, he did duty in Alabama, and people saw him there...this one was debunked about a month ago.
I agree
I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug
use. As oppossed to "I didn't inhale"??
Why compare him to others on this matter? That's avoiding the point.
By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat
duty in Vietnam. Pilots in the ANG were the most likely of all NG folks to get deployed to Nam
This is not all that important. But I do like the idea of someone who actually fought in a war being in charge. At least it might balance their viewpoint on the cost of war.
COLLEGE:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. How many of you here could even get in to Yale?
How many here are trying to run the country?!?!?!
I was a cheerleader. So?
Because cheerleading is stupid...and guys cheerleading is even more stupid.
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. So he knows what defeat tastes like
I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas, in 1975. YEP
ok
I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas.
The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. Are you making an accusation?
No, it just points out a strange coincidence that makes me feel uncomfortable about him.
I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal thatI guess I don't understand enough about this to realize why it being very very very common is OK. So I'll try to refrain from judgment on it unless I can learn more about it.
took land using taxpayer money. assumming it's true TIF financing is very very very common.
With the help of my father and our right-wing friends in the oil
industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of
Texas. I wonder if the Voters of Texas and Ms Richards misgoverance of the State had anything to do with Bush being elected. She is a liberal and Texas is indeed a conservative state. Ken Lay helped some Democrats too.
OK. But the closer anyone is to Ken Lay, the more suspicous I am about them.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:
I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies,
making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. Go to Jersey, much more polluted
Again, you're avoiding the point. Did he or did he not set back Texas pollution laws drastically?
During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog
ridden city in America.
I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of
billions in borrowed money. ?
I set the record for the most executions by any governor inSo the Governor has no control over whether or not someone is executed? If so, then it goes right along with his religiously biased God complex.
American history. Governors don't execute...the legal system does
With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my
father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President
after losing by over 500, 000 votes. Jesus H. Christ, this B.S. again...per the constitution of the US Bush is the legal and legitimate president...maybe we need to count all those absentee ballots that keep getting tossed out in Democrat states
No need to start arguing this as it will no doubt always be controversial...
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a
criminal record. And one he readily admited to...the others...just never got caught
I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of overDefinitely debatable and a reason that people will have to decide for themselves if they want him in office again. I know I don't.
one billion dollars per week. Which was entirely necessary for US security
I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S.Economics is very complicated and something I don't know a lot about, so I try to keep judgement away from this for now...
Treasury. What freaking Surplus? and what bankrupt Treasury? The Surplus disappeared before he came into office
I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S.
history. Though one of the smallest when compared to the GNP and the Budget itself.
I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any
12 month period. I need to see the records on this...common sense says that when Clinton's Tech bubble burst, the bankruptcies began...so how is that Bush's fault.
I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month
period. Yet more US citizens own homes than ever before in history...maybe it's that Tech bubble thing again
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of
the U.S. stock market. 9-11 (not his fault) Enron (not his fault) the Recession that began under Clinton (which he has fixed)
In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their
jobs and that trend continues every month. Yep, only 800,000 new jobs created this year...horrible...The last indicator of economic recovery is employment...which continues to go up...and if you look at Labor department household survey's you find that a lot of the "lost jobs" are really self employed folks.
I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. Nice to have folks around that know how to use money.
My "poorest millionaire, " Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker
named after her.Whaaa
I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by a U.S.
President. So?
So?!?! I don't know about you, but I prefer LESS tax money to go to campaigning, not to set records in spending it! And if I am going to pay for it, I'd like to see campaign fund raising made illegal entirely and an equal amount of tax payer money to go to each party (not just the 2 big ones) for equal campaigning. So the idea of a president setting a record on spending our money to get re-elected just rubs me wrong...
I am the all-time U.S. and world record holder for receiving the
most corporate campaign donations.First, proof, second, so what.
Because corporate campaign donations is what buys politics.
My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best
friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate
bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron Ken Lay is Bush's best friend? He was also Clinton's golf buddy...wait a minute....wasn't Clinton in office when most of this corporate scandal nonsense was actually going on....you don't think that this whole "depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is" has anything to do with the tone set for corporate America...do ya? Seems to me the US Justice department and SEC are now cleaning the mess made by Clinton.
Again, no one is proposing to re-elect Clinton, so why keep comparing him. I'll say it again...Ken Lay is a bastard and I prefer a president who had nothing to do with him.
My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys
to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election
decision. Really? So as a private citizen I can only hire those YOU approve of?
No, it just makes people like me feel uncomfortable that the prez was getting help from Enron. I'm sure he didn't hire their jets because they have such low everyday rates.
I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against
investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent
investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent
investigating one of the biggest corporate rip offs in history. What corporate rip off is this? The one where the company itself reports irregularities from a company it contracted with in Kuwait? Is that the one??
Don't know enough about this myself.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and
refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was
revealed. What energy crisis is that?
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history. Adjusted for inflation...1973 was WAY higher
Same as above.
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be
awarded government contracts.details details
I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any
President in U.S. history.details details
Some consider those important details.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest
bureaucracy in the history of the United States government.SCORE...then again...he was against it for that very reason at first, but for the security of the US became aware that it was necessary so that CIA and FBI or even FBI criminal and FBI terror investigators could talk.
I still don't like it.
I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S.
history Which ones are those again?
I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations
remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission. I wonder if that had anything to do with who was heading up the commission at that time....one of the biggest abusers of human rights in the world...strange isn't it.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
A thoroughly anti-American institution...I approve
I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. "prisoners of war"
detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva
Convention.Inspectors? What inspectors?...what Prisoners of War? are you refering to the battlefield detainees, aka illegal combatants who are not protected under the Geneva convention?
Changing their name to "illegal combatants" doesn't change what they are.
I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations
election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).First I've heard of it...do we really need Jimmy Carter standing watch over the most free country in the world?
Yes, we do.
I set the record for fewest number of press conferences of any
President since the advent of television. True, he ain't the best public speaker
That alone is huge to me...I would prefer a president who can communicate with his people.
I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one year
period. Jealous
Slacker.
After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the
worst security failure in U.S. history. The blame of which was shared by all US administrations back to Carter or even before
I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade
Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most
hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in
world history. Some of us don't see it as a failure of diplomacy....especially when France and Russia were on the take from Saddam...maybe THAT is the diplomatic failure....
Well, some of us do see it as that...
I have set the all time record for most people worldwide to
simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people),
shattering the record for protest against any person in the history
of mankind. I take that to mean he's doing something right...where were these guys when Saddam needed to be protested?
Ummm, I'm gonna guess they weren't living in Iraq...
I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked,
preemptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign
nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the
majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community.NOT unprovoked, NOT pre-emptive (a violated ceasefire agreement gave the US the legal right, even internationally, to resume the war, damned details) actually, the majority favored the war...and still approve.
Forever debatable.
I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut
in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in war
time.Ahhh, investigate that a little
I have, but just a little, and it seems true to me.
In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for
attacking Iraq, then blamed the lies on our British friends.LIE is a big word...that doesn't apply...I wonder where the Chemical Weapons in Jordan came from...and I wonder what all those Semi Trucks convoying into Syria just before the war and burying their cargo were carrying...hmmm not matter
I don't understand the reasoning behind this...why on earth would Saddam do this? If it was to gain international sympathy it sure didn't do much to stop the US and he should have been able to see that. And sure...LIE is a big word...he used faulty info to justify something he was planning to do anyway. He's an idiot and he needs to go.
I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
security. When the Europeans vote in US elections let me know...I wonder how many of those 71% were on the take from Saddam? I wonder why this same 71% wanted to do NOTHING while people on their own continent were murdering one another in ethnic cleansing that threated the world's peace back in the 90's. Again, Europe learned the wrong lesson in WWII, instead of learning that evil must be oppossed early on, it learned instead that war is bad....which makes it impossible to confront evil.
I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster, "
a WMD. Ummm, we already have those
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice. But we keep trying
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my
father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view.In accordance with Texas state law.
I don't know about this...has that always been state law?
