http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html
that is a link to the smoking gun.
the entire story is there.i read the arrest report.
Girls go through puberty faster...and hormones rage. SO it should be ok for a 14 year old girl to have sex with a 22 year old man or woman, right?
I never said it was OK...but rather, that the woman should not be treated as if she molested this boy against his will. So to answer your question...if a 14 year old girl willingly has sex with a 22 yr old, yes he should be punished for sex with a minor, but certainly not for child abuse.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html
that is a link to the smoking gun.
the entire story is there.i read the arrest report.
Valis, I think legally, the age should of consent should be left at 18, but in reality, once a boy goes through puberty his sexual desires start peaking right away. So I can't imagine fulfilling those desires as being too traumatic, unless it is against their will.
Sheila -
Maybe we are missing each other's points, although I think I understand yours. I know it can't be consensual by law since the law doesn't allow the minor to consent. But IN REAL LIFE, he can agree/consent/whatever to sex. In fact in REAL LIFE, I imagine many 14 yr old boys would not only consent to it, but also pursue it.YOUR missing the point IT CAN'T BE CONSENSUAL BY LAW. A Minor is NOT LEGALLY ABLE TO CONSENT PERIOD...Thank GOD that the courts see the damage this can do.
You are inferring by this that this 14 year old did not have a choice and that the teacher took away that choice. I see no proof of this in the statements of the case. In fact, from the details given, once again, it seems as though the boy had no problem going along with it. Your condemning her for something you have no proof or even suggestion that she did. She slept with a minor, charge her for that and punish her. But it doesn't compare to child abuse unless you can prove that she forced this on him or coerced him against his will.In Mary Kay L case she saddle the poor boy with children do you think he had a choice ?????? Also, you don't know what she said or did to encourage those encounters. As I said would she be doing it if he was 7 ????? I think a women that doesnt know the boundaries wouldn't know when to stop .....
God...your acting as if all boys would jump at the chance. I ask what about choice
I totally agree....as a 14 yr old boy I might have disagreed though :>)Children should be able to have role models/teachers that aren't trying to hop into bed with them....
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html
that is a link to the smoking gun.
the entire story is there.i read the arrest report.
To me, this is all that matters. It was illegal and there is no justification.
You are absolutely right. It was illegal and she should be punished. Driving recklessly is illegal and should be punished. Cheating on your taxes is illegal and should be punished.
This doesn't make this a moral dilemna though. This was not child abuse. The boy had sex with her repeated amounts of times and it seems to have been obviously consensual.
My point being that this boy was more than likely not traumatized or damaged emotionally or mentally by this, so she should not be punished for that.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html
that is a link to the smoking gun.
the entire story is there.i read the arrest report.
I'd be willing to bet a grand that those boys are NOT traumatized.
Molesting? Maybe in the sense that it is improper...but I seriously doubt because it was unwanted. I agree with Six, jail her for stupidity, but the outcry for blood is way overboard.
ok time to be brutally honest.. what do guys think of women with tattoo's.
first thing that jumps into your head.. reason i ask is i'm getting my first one next week and was wondering what the general concensus is.. i am definately sure about doing it.
thought about it for years and it took me 6 months to find the design i wanted.
I have a few "girl"friends (as in friends that are girls) that have full sleeves of nice tattoos. To me it doesn't make a difference as long as the tattoos are an expression of their creative side and not done as a fad. My personal preference is I am absolutely sick of tattoos in the small of the back. It's about as appealing as a barb wire tattoo around the bicep of a male. But that's just this dork's opinion.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
HillaryStep -
Great post!
Yeru - On this, your wacko side is coming out...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
Dolphman -
When was the last time a Mullah said "Stop the beheadings, it makes us look bad". Not to mention Paul Johnson, like Nick Berg, wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Absolutely innocent.
Actually there were Muslim Clerics pleading for this extremist group to not do this.
People often make this a Christian vs Muslim argument which I think is wrong. That's like saying the Christian white supremicists of the KKK are reflective of Christianity.
Crazy151 -
Here is the general attitude in Saudi Arabia.....
"How can we inform on our brothers when we see all these pictures coming from Abu Ghraib and Rafah," Muklas Nawaf, a resident of Dhahar al-Budaih, said as he ate meat grilled on a spit at a restaurant called Jihad, Arabic for "holy war."
I don't see how one person's quote can be construed as being the "general attitude."
Double Edge - I'm with you...I just wish they would have done that before sending all our troops over there...
Devon McBride -
It's already been done. Hybrid cars are flying off the lots in the US and hydrogen cars are expected to be around in 10 years. This year Ford is coming out with the first Hybrid SUV too.I think we still have a long way too go. Hybrid sales don't come close to even comparing to gas sales. People do not want to give up their Hummers and SUVS. I'm looking forward to the Hybrid Explorer, but as with most Hybrids, it will no doubt be sacrificing a lot of space for battery cells. This requires the consumer to sacrifice some convenience, which I don't think the US population is about to do in any measurable amount. I'm one of the guilty, still owning 2 gas cars. Wish I had the money to plop down for a new Hybrid though.
i have only recently discovered this band(?
), not sure if that is what to call them.
they are are what you would get if you mixed the beatles, the grateful dead, pink floyd and an orchestra if you put them to work on a non-existing musical play.
They are a great band...if you like them you should also listen to The Flaming Lips.
anyone read this book?
what's you're reaction, if any, to the basic premis of the book (that the holy grail is ... oops - i don't want to spoil it for those who haven't read it yet).
the author takes a ficticious incident and weaves some little-known yet interesting and provacative facts throughout his story.
Davinci Code is one of those "made for movies" books. A good read, but don't take it too serious and talk about it to others as if there is any merit to the history in it. Also, don't expect to get to know the characters too well. Besides that, I think it might make a decent hollywood movie and if nothing else, act as a catalyst to get people interested in actual religous history.
this was brought up by my journey and they requested information regarding it.
this is a quote from the page below regarding how the wt takes other's words out of context to fit their own agenda.
quote..........misquote:.
Leolaia has written a very nice paper on this that helped me to understand it much better. She goes into the etymology of stauros and crux. A simple summary is this...if you look at the meaning of the word "gun" it originally meant a musket. But now it can mean everything from the a huge gun on a tank to a liquid dispenser behind a bar. Just as the quote above points out...as the intruments of death changed, so did the meaning of stauros and crux. So it is more important to look at what was common practive at the time...which seems to be a cross.
