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  My Governer is gay

  by RR in

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  n.j. governor resigns, admits gay affair

  thu aug 12, 9:51 pm .

  trenton, n.j. - in a stunning declaration, gov.

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  amac

  In response to those that say infidelity doesn't matter in public office, I disagree.

  Marriage vows are very important, more important than a temporary term in office. I say this meaning the vow itself is more binding (unless you went with non-traditional vows about loving your mate more than chocolate.) So to treat such an important vow with disregard is a reflection on that person and how they will view other vows and promises.

  I realize that each case is different and the circumstances for each will say a lot. But I do think it is something that deserves attention.
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  BLOOD -- WTS Questions and Sound Answers 9

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  blood -- wts questions and sound answers 9

  the decree issued to noah answers the question of what blood god required righteous persons to abstain from.

  the blood humans should abstain from is the same blood noah had to abstain from -- the blood of animals killed for food.

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  amac

  Christians are told to abstain from blood. This statement does not indicate what blood Christians must abstain from. Neither does it indicate what abstention is enjoined to Christians. (E.g., looking at, smelling, touching, handling, eating, etc.) By itself the statement is meaningless because there is no way Christians can completely abstain from blood and live, and we must assume God wants Christians to live. So we must look elsewhere in the Bible to determine the meaning of the Christian decree to abstain from blood.

  Wouldn't it make more sense to put more context to this scripture by examining how blood was used at the time of the writing of this scripture? Thus allowing us to understand what was inferred by abstaining from blood?

  I believe JW's claim that at the time not only were people eating blood (unbled meat) but I remember reading some claim about it also being used medicinally by some cultures at the time.
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  You are EX-JWs because you want to live an immoral life!

  by Sirona in

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  2. friends

  many jehovah's witnesses believe what they've been told about ex-witnesses.

  they say that exjws simply want to live an immoral life.

  they say that exjws cannot live up to "jehovah's standards".

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  amac

  My leaving had nothing to do with wanting to be immoral. I was and am still happily married and have no need for adultery, which along with fornication, is the primary meaning behind "immoral" to most JW's. I started to fade after closely examining their doctrines and realizing that there is no such thing as "The Truth." I realized that I didn't like the condescending attitude I had towards others and constantly being judgemental.

  I am still no more immoral than any of my JW friends.
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  JW SINGLES site shut down due to GUILT!

  by Survivor2004 in

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  2. friends

  hi folks.. i have been lurking on and off for about 2 years now and before i did post a couple threads under my old alias but it wont accept it for some reason so i had to re-join.. anyway there was a singles site called jwsingles.net by a nice fellow who wanted to help other lonely jw single folks meet but he is about to shut it down despite some success stories which i guess makes the elders upset.. i had joined two years ago and was on the mailing list(i,ve been inactive for about 5 years now)thats the short version,anyway,i got this e-mail from him the other day and it really infuriated me because he did nothing wrong but again the organization wants to control every aspect of their lives,including not letting jw,s put up harmless websites for singles to meet.after all in many many congregations there is a severe shortage of available singles right?and,if they dont even want you to look for a mate in their own organization (on the net) then they will look outside of the organization but i guess they are too dense to understand that.. his letter wreaks of guilt and he hangs his head in shame at congregations.i fail to see how he has stumbled others here.its none of others business what adult jw,s want to meet someone.. i understand the heartache of being all alone for many many years with no one and no suitable mates there as they were too stuffy and i felt like i could never match up no matter how hard i tried.i shed too many tears to count as im sure many here have as well.. anyway here is the e-mail.. greetings friends.. this will most likely be the last message you recieve from jw singles.net.. the site has been running for several years now with its main goal to help those of like faith find and if they wish contact each other.we,ve met that goal with several success stories.im very glad to say that an old friend of mine from a congregation in maryland met a wonderful sister from california.after months of phone calls and trips and bible studies over the phone,they were married.both are extremely happy with their new mates.. there are other stories the friends have shared when asking to have their profiles removed.. however i cannot continue to justify the site against the councel of the wbt society.i am tired of sinking in my seat at assemblies and conventions when they mention websites to avoid.it is also not my place to second guess the faithful and discreet salve and the connection they have with jehovahs spirit in guiding the organization in these last days.while i believe that with proper theocratic guidelines this site can be used ,like many have demonstrated to a good cause,i will not possibly stumble my brothers and sisters.. i have thought of selling the site to help recoup the expenses i incurred while developing and running the site ,but again i dont want the responsibility of passing it off to someone else,possibly a wordly company or person.. after the last paying members subscription has run out,i will open the full site with access to every member .this will be the last chance to try and contact some of the 2000 members we have.right now im targeting september as the final month the site will run.our information on the site will be deleted as the database of users is erased.if you care to make a donation of any size while the site is still open to everyone our paypal address is _________ or contact me for a mailing address.. thanks to all those who have tried to help and build the idea i had into a functioning and useful program.i wish you all well and continued strenght in this time of the end.all of the friends are tired and are struggling just to make it to meetings instead of staying home with a headache or working a little late.be upbuilding to each other ,help to show love amongst ourselves and continue to walk with god until the end.. agape.

  brian.

  jw singles.net'.

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  amac

  This is a cop out. I and others have had corespodance with the watchtower. They only two sites they endorse are watchtower.org and jw-media.org. They (due to legal reasons) give no oppinion on sites not owned by them and tell you to use your discretion while surfing the internet. So the old men in brooklyn have nothing to do with it. Who ever this guy is he is probally in trouble with his locals.

  That's funny, because at my District Convention last weekend, they said that JW internet dating sites are bad. The speaker even mocked it. At the time I thought it was odd, because I could have sworn that in the past the WT has encouraged courting through letters. This speaker criticized internet dating for the same reasons that the WT encouraged letter dating. I could be wrong as I'm going off an old memory and I haven't bothered researching it. Anyone else remember?
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  Charles Russell, Alleged Child Abuser

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in the thread about whether charles russell was gay or not, a topic was brought up that i believe deserves a new thread.

  as card-carrying apostates we all need to be careful about our information.

  even one mistake, whether intentional or not, gives dubs the chance to jump up and say, "see those apostates lied about that thing.

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  amac

  She was 37.
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  Dangerous sex offender

  by Celia in

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  last friday, a guy who has spent 20 years in jail for assaulting and raping a 60 y.o.

  woman at knife point has been set free.

  before this, he had assaulted and raped a young mother in her house, her children were in the house at the time.

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  amac

  Sounds like a good time to go gun shopping...
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  What sister elder said at the book study..........ARRRGH

  by Pistoff in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hello all; my jaw dropped monday at the bookstudy.at the book study on monday, the only meeting i can stomach anymore, a statement was made that made my blood boil.

  in asking the question "how does god protect us?

  " sister elder answered this way: "well, one of the ways is like that abuse case that was filed in the (twin) cities, or wherever, (sic) it turns out it was thrown out because all the charges were false, or whatever.

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  Now over the year, this story got translated as "God protected this brother because he chose spiritual things over physical things." A sister gave this answer at the hall to a similar question and I about wanted to puuuuuuuke. In essence, what she was saying is that God allowed the death of the other 14 brothers and sisters that day because they chose to support their families? The WT conductor did not even correct the sister..

  I was at a dinner party about a year ago where someone related that same story and derived that it must have been Jah's protection. The good part about it is it was over dinner so only one person was talking at a time...so when she finished I was able to get everyone's attention and tell them about the guy who worked at the World Trade Center and when his wife saw the news she called his cell. He answered, she asked him where he was and he said he was at work and asked why. She knew he was lying and it turns out he was at his Mistress' house!!! So I concluded the story asking I wonder if Jehovah protected him too....haha! (I have no idea if that story is true, but it certainly made the rounds after 9/11.)
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  UPDATE: Oregon sex abuse case!!!

  by avishai in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.midvalleysunday.com/display/inn_local/news03.txt

  posted: feb 08, 2003 - 23:15:54 pst .

  abuse lawsuit brings forth new allegations.

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  amac

  How irritating!!!! I agree with your post Alan about Brumley side stepping the issue. He says:

  Brumley, the Watchtower Society lawyer, said that the elders aren't to blame for acts committed by another person. He says McKenzie wasn't even an official congregation member, though he may have attended some meetings.

  "To our knowledge, he was never a baptized Witness," Brumley said.

  No one is accusing them of being responsible for acts committed by others. What they are accussing them of is not doing anything about it and having a policy in place that prohibits anything being done!

  How frustrating!
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  RUSSIA: Jehovah's Witness congress broken up

  by Elsewhere in

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  2. friends

  this article was published by f18news on: 27 july 2004russia: jehovah's witness congress broken up

  by geraldine fagan, moscow correspondent, forum 18 news service

  since 1996, jehovah's witnesses have held an annual urals regional congress in the yekaterinburg city stadium.

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  amac

  I'm glad I don't live there...that place sounds messed up.
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  Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had The Power?

  by minimus in

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  as much as i believe that the witnesses are a "cult", i don't think i'd choose to legally ban them.

  what about you?

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  amac

  No...but it would be cool to outlaw their ability to dictate to their entire religion who they should shun...