If this holds until election day, Trump has virtually no path to victory.
I remember they said this in 2016, up until election night.
After this year, the far left showing itself for what it is, fascist socialists, Trump will win by a landslide.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/495371-as-biden-struggles-hillary-waits-for-the-call.
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any thoughts about this?.
If this holds until election day, Trump has virtually no path to victory.
I remember they said this in 2016, up until election night.
After this year, the far left showing itself for what it is, fascist socialists, Trump will win by a landslide.
i’ve heard from a few trump voters that they are getting tired of the whole trump thing.
one person yesterday said he lies.
another person said she hears from her clients in her business that the constant drama and push back from all sides against trump is fatiguing.. i remind people that before this worldwide pandemic, we had the best numbers in jobs.
Haven't been on this site for a long time. Minimus, I remember 17 years ago you had 10,000+ posts, you have been going all this time. Outstanding.
I agree completely, Trump over Hillary, any day, Trump doesn't look fatigued to me. I'd say Biden is the one with fatigue, particularly mental fatigue. Trump over Biden is a no brainer. Biden is barely aware of himself.
Clearly all the stops are being pulled out.
If Hillary had won, it would never come out that Obama was spying on Trump campaign. The fact this is coming to light is another reason they will do anything to stop Trump's reelection.
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just wanted to put this out there for any lurkers.. as someone that grew up during the 70s and 80s, we were promised that we would be in the first picture long ago.
if you are still on the fence, please let this sink in for a while..
Joined this site 17 years ago. Amazed the account is still active.
Born in late 70's, grew up as a JW in 80's, taught I would live forever and that everyone around me would die.
Walked away in the mid 90's.
I am already living on a paradise earth, the jury is still out on 'forever' :)
dh
hi,.
it's been a long time since i posted on here, but i find myself at a point in life where the input of others who've been through a similar experience would be nice to hear.. i'm 32 years old, was born in the jw and left when i was 18, so it's fair to say the bulk of my adult life has been spent out, but the bulk of my adult life i have been pretty much working, and i'm often told i am a 'workaholic'.
i suppose now looking back in perspective, i have always kept myself very occupied with work, surface friends and surface experiences, but never really allowed anyone or anything in any deeper.. now i look at it an identify that there are some massive barriers still up, and i have developed a person who is successful in real life in terms of whatever real life percieves as doing ok, but is deep down completely isolated from other people 'like me' if that makes sense.. i do not believe in the idea of god, or religion in general, i've always said it is just a crutch and a control mechanism, but it brings me to the thought of how i feel right now, that i have lacked for most of my life anyone to share common ground with, common views and community etc, and that most people turn to their church for that, but for a person such as myself, there is no such place.. it doesn't make me want to go anywhere near a church or reconsider anything but it does make me think sometimes that it would be nice to have an alternative, with real life interaction and sharing of ideas, i miss that in my life, and i think because of how i am wired and how my experience has been, it is becoming a negative thing, and is probably the beginnings of the path to implosion.. anyways, would be interested to hear if anyone has had a similar experience.. dh.
Hi, thanks for the quick replies. I am in Johannesburg, South Africa, originally from the UK, part of my dilemma I suppose is that through my work I've ended up living in several different countries over the years, which sort of compounds things.
hi,.
it's been a long time since i posted on here, but i find myself at a point in life where the input of others who've been through a similar experience would be nice to hear.. i'm 32 years old, was born in the jw and left when i was 18, so it's fair to say the bulk of my adult life has been spent out, but the bulk of my adult life i have been pretty much working, and i'm often told i am a 'workaholic'.
i suppose now looking back in perspective, i have always kept myself very occupied with work, surface friends and surface experiences, but never really allowed anyone or anything in any deeper.. now i look at it an identify that there are some massive barriers still up, and i have developed a person who is successful in real life in terms of whatever real life percieves as doing ok, but is deep down completely isolated from other people 'like me' if that makes sense.. i do not believe in the idea of god, or religion in general, i've always said it is just a crutch and a control mechanism, but it brings me to the thought of how i feel right now, that i have lacked for most of my life anyone to share common ground with, common views and community etc, and that most people turn to their church for that, but for a person such as myself, there is no such place.. it doesn't make me want to go anywhere near a church or reconsider anything but it does make me think sometimes that it would be nice to have an alternative, with real life interaction and sharing of ideas, i miss that in my life, and i think because of how i am wired and how my experience has been, it is becoming a negative thing, and is probably the beginnings of the path to implosion.. anyways, would be interested to hear if anyone has had a similar experience.. dh.
Hi,
It's been a long time since I posted on here, but I find myself at a point in life where the input of others who've been through a similar experience would be nice to hear.
I'm 32 years old, was born in the JW and left when I was 18, so it's fair to say the bulk of my adult life has been spent out, but the bulk of my adult life I have been pretty much working, and I'm often told I am a 'workaholic'. I suppose now looking back in perspective, I have always kept myself very occupied with work, surface friends and surface experiences, but never really allowed anyone or anything in any deeper.
Now I look at it an identify that there are some massive barriers still up, and I have developed a person who is successful in real life in terms of whatever real life percieves as doing ok, but is deep down completely isolated from other people 'like me' if that makes sense.
I do not believe in the idea of god, or religion in general, I've always said it is just a crutch and a control mechanism, but it brings me to the thought of how I feel right now, that I have lacked for most of my life anyone to share common ground with, common views and community etc, and that most people turn to their Church for that, but for a person such as myself, there is no such place.
It doesn't make me want to go anywhere near a Church or reconsider anything but it does make me think sometimes that it would be nice to have an alternative, with real life interaction and sharing of ideas, I miss that in my life, and I think because of how I am wired and how my experience has been, it is becoming a negative thing, and is probably the beginnings of the path to implosion.
Anyways, would be interested to hear if anyone has had a similar experience.
dh
narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by : .
believing that you are better than others being envious of others or believing others are envious of you.
fantasizing about power, success and attractivenesss trouble keeping healthy relationships.
That's me, minus the JW part, narcissus ain't got shit on me.
happy easter sunday!!
so nice to have holidays!
on cable t.v the've been having non stop jesus documentaries which are better then anything from the watchtower society!
I agree with the first post and the responses to the second.
'Knowing' and 'believing' something does not make it so, however having said that I'll concede that not all things can be proved with evidence... 'Love' for example.
I remember a line from a movie (Contact) where the Matthew Mcconnaughy asks Jodie Foster... 'Did you love your father' and she says 'yes' and he says 'prove it' - Clearly there is no way to prove it.
Do people believe firmly that Jesus is god etc etc... yes they do. Is there a way to prove it... No there isn't. Is there any basis in reality for it to be a soundly based belief? In my opinion no, because unlike Jodie Fosters character in that movie, people who firmy believe and know Jesus is their saviour etc, have never met him or developed a relationship with him in what we percieve as 'reality' - the physical world.
Furthermore another point I have to concede is that if people want to argue that they met Jesus in their head, in a vision or dream or whatever, there is no way anyone can prove otherwise, because nobody can know another persons mind... If this is the case and you do just 'Know' it... I suggest the watching of an excellent movie on this very topic called Frailty!
nvr,.
here is what i have observed about some of the atheists here.
as in the first example from this essay, this is to be expected if atheism is true.
Some athiests are pushy, however they just state their opinion and beliefs and try to justify them, and probably have only ever done that since there existed athiesm.
Pushy religion on the other hand, has waged counltess wars, been involved in horrendous tortures, burning of people alive, the destruction of entire cultures, and just about every other heinous thing imaginable.
I would rather a pushy athiest than a pushy religious person any day.
That's my two cents!
i heard a woman being interviewed on a radio station this morning and thought this would be an interesting subject to discuss !
in the interview this woman stated that , " men many times only hug you or touch when they want to have sex .
if more men saw that holding hands in public, or the need to reach out to touch a woman affectionately outside of the bedroom , put your arm around her casually- without any expectations , more men would end up in the bedroom later with a woman who feels she has been loved throughout the day !
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chocolate
orgasms
i am curious, for those of us here who have left the jw org, who actually lets it be known to people that they were once a practicing jw.. for me, this is something i tend to keep quiet because it is something i'm not particularly proud of.
anyone else feel the same way?.
lfcv.
i tend to say i had a childhood where i was hammered with religion and i describe it, and if they ask i'll tell more. sometimes it comes up at xmas and birthdays, i was born on xmas day so once people find that out it usually begs the same question, 2 sets of presents or 1 set of presents, and when i say none, they ask why, and then i can tell them i was raised a jw and blah blah blah, didn't have much of a childhood. i've had it all my life but i actually have a sense of pride that i came out of that ridiculous organisation having been born in and i never feel ashamed to say it.