I had a similar discussion with a pair of Mormons who came to my door - they also told me that God is made of flesh and bone (but not blood, I think). My response was: "So does God have legs?" They replied that he does indeed. I asked what he used them for - after all, he doesn't really need to walk anywhere does he? Why would he have legs? That kinda stumped Mormon 1, but Mormon 2 stepped in and said that he thinks maybe sometimes God likes to walk around among his creation. Yeah, maybe, lol.
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Just recovering from a 'Mormon Mind Melt' ...
by LoveUniHateExams ini was in town centre about an hour ago to buy a shirt and tie for an upcoming job interview when i was stopped by a youngish, clean cut american young man (20-ish) in a cheap suit.
my heart sank as i thought it was local jws.
to my slight relief, it was mormons!
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Hey Simon
by ShirleyW ini'm noticing that when i open quite a few of the posts here i notice that the end of the sentences on some lines are breaking improperly.
like for the word paragraph, it's broken up with the "aph" on the next line for an example.
it's happening a lot i'm seeing it just about in every post i open, is it just my view and my computer?.
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maksutov
It is due to this bit of CSS in http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/static/styles/main-15abe09721.css:
.post-body {
-moz-hyphens: auto;
word-break: break-all;
word-wrap: break-word;
}According to this page, it should perhaps be changed to:
.post-body {
-ms-hyphens: auto;
-moz-hyphens: auto;
-webkit-hyphens: auto;
hyphens: auto;
-ms-word-break: break-all;
word-break: break-word
word-wrap: break-word;
overflow-wrap: break-word;
}...for maximum browser compatability.
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Where does the Society stand on Uniformitarianism?
by marmot inmy dad doesn't like the fact that i've come to accept the theory of evolution.
he always accuses me of unquestioningly "buying into" what scientists say and says i don't apply critical thinking to the problem.
so now i've decided to tackle his claim at the roots.
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maksutov
marmot: My dad doesn't like the fact that I've come to accept the theory of evolution. He always accuses me of unquestioningly 'buying into' what scientists say and says I don't apply critical thinking to the problem.
I don't think "critical thinking" means what your dad thinks it means. I also don't hold out much hope that you will ever be able to help him understand your point of view. As for your question, I don't think JWs accept uniformitarianism (I had to copy and paste that, lol) as true. They just cherry pick.
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A question for the shunned re: hide or seek
by dubstepped inso here's my question as a newly daed person that is summarily shunned.
do you hide from family and act like you don't exist or do you let them know you're still here and seek them out?
they want you to be dead, like you no longer exist, because strict avoidance makes it easier on them.
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maksutov
I think the people who are shunning me (parent and in-laws) would say hello to me if they saw me, but will not associate with me. If I gave them any attention, they would love it - it would validate their behaviour, as they would think I was fine with it. I'm not. So I don't. I won't have anything to do with them UNLESS they agree to treat me as a normal son/son-in-law. -
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Mass disassociation pact...
by freemindfade inany takers?
we can pick a date and pull the plug?
lol .
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maksutov
Island Man: I think it's a great idea. And for those who are awake but not in a position to actually disassociate why not send in an anonymous, unsigned disassociation letter - just as a way of making a statement.
Cool - even those who are already disfellowshipped or disassociated could join in with that.
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Watchtower Toledo buildings renovation designed by STATE-OF-THE-ART designer office
by Gorbatchov infor people who already are bedazzled by the current stream of information about watchtower / jw.org real estate planning, renovation and the emergency stop on the building programma called out, i found today that the renovation design of the (impressive!
) toledo buildings for the watchtower real estate staff, is designed by a state of the art designer.
http://www.hudsondesign.pro.
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maksutov
Petraglyph: Huh? What's wrong with my post? :o
Lol, it includes a rude word! (W*nk)
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Why zombies?
by FadeToBlack ini just saw ww-v with brad pitt the other night (i know i am behind the times, still trying to catch up on movies i missed the last 30 years) and it struck me- why are we always fighting zombies?
is it just easier to justify the carnage?
it seems to me, that the most horrific carnage seems to be neighbor-vs-neighbor.
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maksutov
I love a good zombie flick. Wifey is at the assembly this weekend, so I watched Shaun of the Dead last night (seen it before, but it bears a second watch). Warm bodies was OK (a zom-rom-com), and WWZ was pretty good too (and surprisingly devoid of gore), but I think my fave zombie flick is Zombieland - so much fun.
Some researchers theorize that we find zombies scary because of the 'uncanny valley' effect - they are almost human, but not quite, which throws us off balance and feels very uncomfortable. More info here: http://www.uncanny-valley.co.uk/
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Calm Down Everybody, We Will Know Soon Enough
by OnTheWayOut inseriously, they will change the midweek meeting ever so slightly.
it is just repackaging of the same old stuff.seriously, we don't know if construction is halted for days, weeks, months, forever, or what.. we don't know if new kingdom halls will still go up, old kingdom halls will be closed and sold.
they have laid off bethelites before and they will lay them off some more.
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maksutov
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Everybody loves Raymond
by Saintbertholdt ina while ago the user vinman started a forum thread called: "ray franz was an idiot".
the reaction to it was quite negative but i have to admit that the title of that thread was intriguing to me.
by nature i am an iconoclast.
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maksutov
Making an accusation like that (about Greenless) would have overshadowed the other themes in the book, especially if there was some doubt as to the veracity of the allegation (removal from the GB might have been more of a precautionary measure than a punishment). Crisis of Conscience was not the place to make that kind of allegation. If there was enough evidence to make an allegation, it should have been made to the police, not published in a book. -
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How wonderful is JW.ORG
by Sabin inthere are some who still love the organization & the people in it.. who understand that every large organization has their own issues.. they believe the advice on what type of person you are supposed to be & how to treat others has made them a better person.
and they believe, quite frankly, even if the g.b are a bunch of narcissistic wannabe powerful guys, the worest thing they have done is to wake up people on saturday mornings.. i`ve been awake most of the night thinking about this, wondering if this person had a point.
then something came to my mind.
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maksutov
While I agree with the OP (excellent list of quotes btw), I find this statement a little odd:
Sabin: If you think this organisation is so good then you absolutely don't believe in God.
Surely, most JWs believe in God? When I believed in God, I thought the organisation was good. Now that I don't believe in God, I do not think the organisation is good. But there really is no connection between the two statements. Belief in God has no bearing on whether or not someone thinks the organisation is good.