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  My relationship has come to an end because of JW brainwashing

  by MM090503 in

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  a few of you may remember when i came to this site back in sept. i was seeking advice about my bf who had been studying with jw.

  well i hate to say it but they won.

  after being together almost 2yrs we broke up.

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  MM,

  I am so sorry you're relationship became a victim to this religion. I'm sure now you know where you stand. When I was married to a JW for 25 years, she always told me I was 2nd in her life. Her religion was always #1 and it shows, we are now divorced and we raised all our kids as Witnesses.

  Be grateful you did not marry and have children. I've lost my children to shunning -- after I taught them this religion ! That is ironic and very sad. Just a few weeks ago, I said "something" that seemed 'anti-JW' to one of them who I had a good relationship with again. I'm not even sure "what" I said, but I am now accused of 'apostacy' and I've been told that is an "unforgivable sin".

  Now, I'm told there will never be any kind of relationship possible again. From my own child.

  I know you still have your pain. It would have only gotten worse, later on. I hope that will make it a little easier. Sadly, this happens everyday , all over the world to relatives and friends of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  Hang around, you're always welcome.

  Rabbit
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  my first post, wooohooo

  by cyborg in

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  i've signed up some time ago but never really had courage to post.

  so here i am, free and open-minded

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  Velcome Cyborg & Sad Elmo...you found the place !

  Sit down and make yourself comfortable.

  Rabbit
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  When the cat's away, Kwin and Talesin will play! Enjoy your convention JWs!

  by kwintestal in

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  2. child-abuse

  i was in the thinking room yesterday morning doing my usual routine, and between grunting and showering my mind was wondering when i came upon what i thought to be a great idea.

  this weekend is the weekend for the district convention where all the good little jw's will be attending.

  so i thought, if the jw's are at the convention, who's going to be at the kh?

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  Dennis,

  Welcome to the board. The reason why they what they did, may seem shocking to you I'm sure. I was a Witness for 35 years, I had never heard of pediphiles among JW's. Like you, I would never have believed it. Like you, as a Witness if we knew of wrong doing like that -- we were NEVER supposed to talk about it, right ?

  Think about all the stuff you DO know...wrong doing amongst the Witnesses...you weren't supposed to EVER talk about it, because you were told it would "bring reproach to Jehovah's name," right ?

  There's the problem ! Just as in the Catholic church, where that same problem has been going on for centuries. It was ugly and no one publically talked about it. That simply fosters an environment where bad things can and do happen. Victims speaking out and making it public IS working to STOP abuse in the Catholic church and it will among Jehovah's Witnesses, too.

  Before you pass judgment on something you know nothing about...read other stories under "Child Abuse" and go to another site called "Silent Lambs", I think someone has already provided a link.

  There are a lot of shocking things I did not know about, because as a JW, I would have been disfellowshipped if I talked with others about things that would make the WTBTS look bad.

  This is real life, where real people get hurt.

  Please...do some research before you decide what is true or not. There was nothing "unlawful" about what they did. Being molested by someone in a congregation and it being dismissed, because "2 people didn't see it happen" or not being reported to the police and it "being handled by the congregation" IS a criminal offense.

  rabbit
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  Open Letter To Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Outaservice in

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  you may not remember, but i know you very well.

  i met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices, and a bible tucked neatly under your arm.

  you told me many beautiful stories of a "paradise earth," and a "righteous new system" which would be established shortly.

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  Gaila...what can I say ? I've never read a more accurate recital of the chronology of becoming a Witness & then leaving. I have tears rolling down my cheeks typing this. I understand your words, because I, too have children & grandchildren that shun me.

  Like so, so, many others here that have lost family to this insidious cult.

  Outaservice...thank you for posting this !

  There 'oughta be a law'...before you start studying or before baptism...they should tell you what will happen if you change your mind. But, then, they wouldn't get too many converts that way.

  "The end justifies the means," WTS 1:1

  Rabbit
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  Is it morally OK to try to free people from the WTS and how?

  by DannyBloem in

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  i have some serious questions here.

  i am still a jw but fading away slowly.

  still have some privileges etc, but that will not be too long i suppose.

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  Danny,

  I liked your breakdown about the problems explaining the Bible's Flood. You mentioned fish, that made me think. There are thousands of different species of fresh water fish -- they would have been killed by the salt water in the oceans as they mixed together. And yet...they weren't. Not good for the bible story, huh ? Another would be insects...there are over 6,000 species of beetles, then all the flying insects like mosquitoes, bees, wasps, and others who would also have very specific dietary needs like blood, nectar from fresh flowers (Which were all killed by salt water, too).

  I don't think Noah had constructed aquariums or herpitariums or insect environments to bring onto the Ark to keep them alive.

  I like your ideas

  1) What would I give them back?

  The way I see it, you can't really take that responsibility upon your shoulders. After 35 years of being brainwashed by WT beliefs, I'm simply tickled I have the FREEDOM to look around and decide for myself what is best for me. Back when I was a regular pioneer for 3 years pre-75, I studied and 'brought in' to the WT several people. I married & then, with my JW wife, raised my kids into this shitty religion.

  I am now being shunned by those same children ! I feel like I have a moral obligation to get them out of a religion I know is destructive. If I can do that, they will then have the freedom I now enjoy of deciding for myself. Right now...all religion disgusts me, I want no part of any of it. Probably it's because I feel 'stung'. That will either go away or not. Either way...I want to stop another generation from making the same mistake I did by becoming a JW. Right now I have grandkids that are being indoctrinated...

  I know what you mean about the "not being as happy now as you were as a JW," that happens for a while when such a huge belief system like this is just not there anymore -- there is a void. Especially when JW's are taught to not look too far into the real future, because the "Paradise" is right around the corner. Our whole outlook about what our lives mean... change when we must face real life.

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  It took them exactly 13 hours from the news broadcast ...

  by kwintestal in

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  ... to ring at my door.. i didn't answer, why bother.

  i got a phone.. kwin

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  I was wondering if that would happen...are you DF/DA? Maybe you need a "hidden news crew" now !
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  Transcript - - Kwintestal's interview with GLOBAL TV

  by talesin in

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  2. child-abuse

  hi, folks.

  well, it was about a minute or so, but really good points were made, and i have a copy on tape.

  it ran twice on the suppertime news, and once on the late evening broadcast.

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  Great Job Kiwin & Talesin for getting these signs out and seeking out the right news media at a perfect time !

  Kwin, thanks for your nerve in putting yourself in the 'public eye' like you did. Nothing is more powerful than some one saying , "Yes, it happened to me, I'm mad as hell...and I'm not gonna take it any more !" (To borrow a phrase )

  I admire your strength of conviction and character for putting this out for people to see. Because of what you and Talesin cooked up and your interview will cause some very uncomfortable, embarrassing moments at the door for many witnesses. A lot of them are probably totally ignorant of the problem and will talk not only to other JW's, but to the Elder, too.

  Tough questions will be asked...answers will be expected. Seeds of doubt will be planted.

  Hoo-ray for you guys !

  Rabbit
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  When the cat's away, Kwin and Talesin will play! Enjoy your convention JWs!

  by kwintestal in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was in the thinking room yesterday morning doing my usual routine, and between grunting and showering my mind was wondering when i came upon what i thought to be a great idea.

  this weekend is the weekend for the district convention where all the good little jw's will be attending.

  so i thought, if the jw's are at the convention, who's going to be at the kh?

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  Hey, I am so proud of you guys !

  It takes nerves and y'all have 'em !

  I'd love to be a bug on the wall to the their reactions AND in the Elders meetings that follow !

  Rabbit
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  Apostates commit the unforgivable sin and will NOT be resurrected.

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i posted this on another thread....but as usual, when i posted it, the thread died and so i thought i'd put it under a different subject as it's worth re-reading.. the society has always said nobody is the judge who commits the dreaded...."unforgivable sin", but they sure the hell do not having any trouble making a statement concerning apostates as commiting the unforgivable sin.. 1982 watchtower 4/1 p.26-28 .

  " jesus told the unrepentant scribes and pharisees that they and their gentile proselytes were subjects for gehenna or, literally, sons of gehenna.

  (matthew 23:15, 33-35; see also john 9:39-41; 15:22-24.

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  I've just been ajudged 'apostate' by some family for saying something 'blasphemous'. I don't even know what it was I said.
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  This takes balls....

  by chrissy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...and considering i don't have any, it is surprising that i found the nerve to post my photo as my avatar!

  i was leery to use my photo thinking someone i knew could catch on to my new apostate antics.

  so, i couldn't decide what to use.

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  No, no, no...be proud. You're woman...roar !

  Ovaries...You have big VARIES !

  Rabbit