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  WHY are there no mentally challenged new JW's...?

  by Rabbit in

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  i was wondering -- why so many churches (even with all there own faults) seem to have social programs, where they help support the poor, and homeless?

  many -- welcome mentally slow or retarded people into their churchs...why not witnesses?

  i once got an answer that, "jehovah knows their hearts and will keep them safe in the end.

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  Blondie said:

  I have many complaints about the WTS, but the unkind use of the word "retard" has not been my experience at the KH.

  I apologize for missing the point.

  Hey Blondie,

  No offense meant, I am new here and I guess I thought you were simply quoting the Watchtower, because that's what you may believe in as the only or best answer to my question. I hope that is not the case.

  Answering simple questions during a study or meeting, as you said you have seen some do -- does not really get to my concerns about 'What really happens to help these people'? They seem to slip between the cracks -- and their needs are not met...

  Thanks for answering,

  ~ Lee ~
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  Possible Apostates here on JWD

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  about a week ago it was brought to administrations attention that there may be apostates lurking on our board, as a precautionary measure we deleted 107 members who had never posted since they joined.

  this morning sadly enough our attention was again directed to a possible apostate within our midst.

  i don't mean to scare the pants off you fellow jwd members but it's been brought to the administration's attention that there may be apostates lurking on jwd, too.

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  FlyingHighNow said:

  Dear Rabbit and anyone else who was scared by this thread,

  I just figured out that, though I was laughing very hard when I started this thread, you couldn't see or hear me. Some of you didn't realize this thread was not to be taken seriously. It was meant as humorous sarcasm. I am not a good leg puller in person because I start smiling or laughing and give myself away. Or in this case you would know I was kidding by the exaggerated sarcasm in my voice if I would have spoken those words to you.

  I am very sorry for scaring anyone. I was really just trying to make everyone smile and to take the sting out of us knowing that faithful JWs are still under such extreme WT control.

  Rabbit, it's cool. Thank you for letting me and every other comedian on this thread know that we caused you worry and that we are maybe too good at leg pulling....at least here on line

  Well, it was v-e-ww-y, s-c-a-ww-y... But, I feel a little red-faced now. I will get to know y'all better!

  I've mis-spoke or did not word some posts right already, I knew what I was tryng to say, but when I wrote it out -- it did not convey what I meant, go figure...just check out my post about "WHY are there no Mentally Challenged new JW's". I had a serious question, but between my head and my fingers, the computer messed up my meaning.

  Enjoyed your posts,

  ~ Lee ~
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  WHY are there no mentally challenged new JW's...?

  by Rabbit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering -- why so many churches (even with all there own faults) seem to have social programs, where they help support the poor, and homeless?

  many -- welcome mentally slow or retarded people into their churchs...why not witnesses?

  i once got an answer that, "jehovah knows their hearts and will keep them safe in the end.

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  Mrs. Rocky 2 - Said:

  I am going to hold to my opinion of respect being underdone. Disagreements about terminology, politically correct or not, start wars, which is not my intention.

  Focusing on getting to know people ("the person") is more important than trying to figure out pc terminology. I think the original question posed by Rabbit was to pose a thought about how the WT community does not really make an effort to know the person, especially those who are mentally challenged. Just as Rabbit mentioned, there are no support groups or assistance for those who are mentally challenged or their families (no formal weekend respite programs, etc.) From experience I know that persons with lower than societal average IQs are avoided by mainstream JWs.

  THANK YOU...! For understanding...my original question so well, Rocky.

  I DO agree that respect is underdone and I really was not trying to 'start a war' over PC or terminology.

  I am sorry I did not word the question better, I think that is why 'forgetmenot' decided to 'hijack' the thread and turn it into an exchange and attack about political correctness.

  Even tho' as a pioneer, I would start a study with anyone who wanted one, I never felt as tho' I was really encouraged to do this and of course told to discontinue them, if there was not the 'proper' progress. I don't think most of them ( the ones that seemed 'slow or mentally challenged' ) could ever have gone thru the whole process. So, WHAT about them?

  That was my question...that was and still is a very big deal with me. I do care about people with those problems and always thought something could be done, but, never was!

  I always saw 'Christendom's' churches doing charity work, in natural disasters they provided help to EVERYONE, most of the time...WBTS only helped the witnesses, not always...but most of the time.

  And...that was my experience, too; unless you were born into a JW family or came with the newly baptized parent(s), there were NO programs or help available.

  So, thank you again, Rocky 2, for getting this thread back on track.

  Blondie:

  I am sorry, but I did not understand your 'point' quoting the WatchTower. I don't think it really answered anything, because it seemed to go all around the subject and not REALLY answer anything. It was all supposition -- how 'bad' or how 'pronounced' the slow mental condtion was...SO WHO DECIDES THAT?? And later...if there was a mistake and that person should NOT have been baptized...and they ARE before their 'judges' in the JC...? What happens...? Disfellowshipping...? When they did not understand what they were getting into in the FIRST place...???

  ~ Lee ~
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  Possible Apostates here on JWD

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. jw
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  about a week ago it was brought to administrations attention that there may be apostates lurking on our board, as a precautionary measure we deleted 107 members who had never posted since they joined.

  this morning sadly enough our attention was again directed to a possible apostate within our midst.

  i don't mean to scare the pants off you fellow jwd members but it's been brought to the administration's attention that there may be apostates lurking on jwd, too.

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  Heather said:

  While I appreciate what you are saying here, you needn't begrudge us some humor.Most of us have been extremely hurt by the WTBTS. Some have even lost loved ones to death. The sins of the WTBTS, as well as their horrible consequences, are piled higher than the heavens. I know there is some higher being that isn't too happy about it either.

  Ok, Ok...I may have over-reacted. It was just that you and others that I've come to enjoy reading their posts and learning a lot...I started hearing these same people start accusing others of being spys, then some of them were giving 'heart-felt confessions'. I guess I don't know your personalities yet, otherwise I would have seen the humor -- as I do now.

  I too, have been extremely hurt by stuff I've experienced as a JW. I've told some about my immediate situation, but, like many others...there's a lot more...maybe some day I'll share it like some of you that have already -- bared your souls. To do that I'll have to be purdy comfortable here...with time.

  Humor is something that keeps a lot of us coping with the left over effects of the WTBTS in our lives. I started this thread and I am kidding about there being what the faithful call apostates here on JWD.

  Humor is a healer...I know that. My new non-JW wife has really helped me out of that straight-jacket I've been in for most of my life - she is my touch-stone, a free-spirit.

  Sassy:

  Thanks for that advice, I will be careful. You are one of the ones who seems to have a kind, calm and pensive way about them. If you (or others) think I'm saying TOO much, I'm not too proud to take constructive advice.

  Gumby:

  I needed that laugh...I guess I set myself up purdy well on that one, thanks!

  A-n-d -- don't scare me again like you did in your post, about you NOT being a REAL X-JW. I have enjoyed reading your stuff.

  Everyone...thanks

  ~ Lee ~
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  Possible Apostates here on JWD

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  about a week ago it was brought to administrations attention that there may be apostates lurking on our board, as a precautionary measure we deleted 107 members who had never posted since they joined.

  this morning sadly enough our attention was again directed to a possible apostate within our midst.

  i don't mean to scare the pants off you fellow jwd members but it's been brought to the administration's attention that there may be apostates lurking on jwd, too.

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  Rabbit

  Aw'right guys and gals: This may be real funny to some of you, but look over below my moniker. It says: Newbie ! This turn of events is scary to many people, I think especially for new people who are checking out things here. You guys that are really OK (here) and are admitting -- even as a joke, that they are JW spys --even 'old timers' will run off people like me, that want to learn about the 'other side of the coin.'

  JW's that ARE here, may or may not be vascillating. Maybe they are given permission to be deceptive by the GB. Hell if I know. I guess they will do their 'thing.' Maybe they, too will learn something.

  As my Momma said, Qwit it...!! Behave yourself...please??

  ~ Lee ~
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  WHY are there no mentally challenged new JW's...?

  by Rabbit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering -- why so many churches (even with all there own faults) seem to have social programs, where they help support the poor, and homeless?

  many -- welcome mentally slow or retarded people into their churchs...why not witnesses?

  i once got an answer that, "jehovah knows their hearts and will keep them safe in the end.

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  Avishai says:

  Have you had to help raise an autistic kid w/ a widowed mother? I KNOW MY BROTHER, YOU DON"T!! GET IT?

  Rabbit says: Aw... what's up Doc?

  And good for you...

  And a technical question: When I want to quote several people in one post, after I paste the first one, then go back to copy others...when I return to reply -- the mail is blank. What gives?

  Also, the original post was on the 16/17th when I try to find it, it's not in the right place among the latest ones. The last few days I had to go to 'Members' go to my name, my 'Posts'. The Post was # 2145...?

  Haylp...

  ~ Lee ~
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  WHY are there no mentally challenged new JW's...?

  by Rabbit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering -- why so many churches (even with all there own faults) seem to have social programs, where they help support the poor, and homeless?

  many -- welcome mentally slow or retarded people into their churchs...why not witnesses?

  i once got an answer that, "jehovah knows their hearts and will keep them safe in the end.

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  Forgetmenot said:

  Changing your speech to update politically terms (when told that others are not politically correct) reflects your respect for the person

  and Mrs, Rocky, too...

  I, too agree about the respect part. Sometimes, tho' when people of a group can't agree -- it can make it impossible what to say, without offending SOMEONE.

  Another Exanple and my last: There are 'Black' people that are offended by being called 'African Americans.' they say "I'm not African!" "Or if my race is African American, what if I live in another country???" Or others that don't like any of the other monikers that are used. Universally, though, there is COMPLETE agreement that the infamous "N" word is wrong. I think everyone knows that. The only other groups that WANT to use this word are people who want to hurt, want to cause devisiveness. They want to offend, they want to be superior, if only in their own minds...!

  Wouldn't you agree with that...huh...?

  Very sincerely, ~ Lee ~
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  WHY are there no mentally challenged new JW's...?

  by Rabbit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering -- why so many churches (even with all there own faults) seem to have social programs, where they help support the poor, and homeless?

  many -- welcome mentally slow or retarded people into their churchs...why not witnesses?

  i once got an answer that, "jehovah knows their hearts and will keep them safe in the end.

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  Forgetmenot said:

  I guess I must address this notion of politically correct terms. It is important to call people what they want to be called.

  I know your heart may have good intentions...however, in the real world, that is very hard, if not impossible to work. For instance, just the fact that the terms keep changing means that NO individual and certainly ANY group are almost EVER going to agree or at least agree for very long! If they do -- I will tend...after a while to go along.

  Another, which you OUGHT to be familar with is: most any person or group that professes to believe in Christ, want to be called 'christians'. Well, they can WANT all they WANT, but, in the end...they will be called that, only if they are seen to BE christians, how they are perceived by, "the beholder".

  Look how many 'induhviduals' in many races have 'perceptions' of of what name THEY have decided, needs to be attached to their ENTIRE race? Some are simple, some are confusing. There has been no vote...! Usually, the loudest mouth or mouths get their way and the rest of us are expected to 'get-on-the-train, too! You are allowed to choose -- so am I -- so is anybody. That doesn't make me or you right or wrong.

  What I said was in NO way intended to hurt anyone, I believe you know that and just decided to let me know, just who was the superior, sensitive human. I hope I am wrong.

  By the way, I wanted to let YOU know, I think I am the smartest and handsomest man ever to walk the earth...and as such, as you said:

  It is important to call people what they want to be called.

  Yes, I want to be CALLED that by you or my feelings will be hurt. By the way, I think EVERYONE in my family in the present and past history want to have that moniker applied to them, too!

  There...I have spoken and thus it will come to be...! yeah yeah, right...well I tried...didn't have a big enough mouth. *sigh*

  OK, you are now welcome to take my words and meaning and misquote and play around with them, like you did to 'avishai' (well, you better ASK him!) , but, knock yourself out on me. Remember, though I am 'disabled', be careful...

  I have figured that you might want to be called something like,"She who is Superior to others and knows it and speaks for all the 'disabled' and down-trodden masses." To be known as:

  "Ms. Politico Correcto All the Time-o."

  Seriously, try not to be so thin-skinned. I really do wish you the best. I think you are trying to do what you think is best, so do we all, I hope. I was having some kinda serious tongue-in-cheek fun with you. I hope we can have good discussions in the future about the actual subjects of the posts, instead of getting off and "not seeing the forest, cause of all those pesky induhvidual trees...

  Wanting to be your friend, ~ Lee ~
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  WITNESS WORLD IS CLOSING DOWN

  by DevonMcBride in

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  this was posted on ww today.

  do you think the apostate infiltration had anything to do with it?.

  in the name of christian unity and peace, we regret to inform you that the management of ww has decided to close the ?park?

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  I do hope they don't make any hard fast rules about the 'Net. This will take 'Elders Visits' to a new level -- when they bring along orders to examine your Hard Drive...or else...? Maybe, spyware will 'Help keep the Congregation Clean,' too huh?

  BRING US TO YOUR PASSWORD!

  Dang, that is a little paranoid, isn't it...?

  ~ Lee ~
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  WHY are there no mentally challenged new JW's...?

  by Rabbit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering -- why so many churches (even with all there own faults) seem to have social programs, where they help support the poor, and homeless?

  many -- welcome mentally slow or retarded people into their churchs...why not witnesses?

  i once got an answer that, "jehovah knows their hearts and will keep them safe in the end.

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  Avishai:

  Old people do that sometimes. Oh, sorry, I mean the "Chronologically challenged."

  That was a good one...PC can go too far. Even 'old people' I know found that one funny!

  I did PM you back...hope it helps.

  Also, I screwed up, I thought you were from the Great State of Texas. Sorry, not everyone one is lucky enough.

  ~ Lee ~