Posts by Rabbit

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Watchtower takes down JWD!

by confusedjw in

watchtower takes down jwd.. .

ap news sept 25, 2004. .

according to watchtower watchdog simon green his website came under attack by the watchtower bible and track society of ny.. .

is it wrong to say god bless you?

by candidlynuts in

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i got fussed at once for writing " may god bless you in your new marriage" on a wedding card.. got funny looks when i said once " god really has blessed us" when talking about my daughter to someone.. seems the jw's took gods blessings away from me.

Rabbit

Witnesses don't say "God Bless you" when you sneeze, because it's an old superstitious custom, that when you sneeze, you leave yourself open for the demons to come and take over your body.

MAYBE, Witnesses could start shopping at garage sales, if the GB OK'd, "Gawd bless ya'!

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Still Demonstrating/Prostesting at the KH and Support is Growing

by Corvin in

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we laid low for a week from picketing the kingdom hall.

i wanted to see how things would go with the emergency hearing before i continued.

because of the pending restraining order sara applied for, i cannot go within 100 yards of her or her husband, mark.

Rabbit

The only thing that really concerns me about some things that have been said is this: We all know the WT 'watches' these boards and we all know they have a fleet of very clever lawyers and lastly...we all know what they will do in the name of "spiritual warfare"...they'll lie.

I'm just not so sure I would advertise everything I thought, Maybe I'm paranoid, maybe cautious.

Good Luck, Corvin

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An Apology Regarding "The Voice"...

by AGuest in

to the household of god that is israel... and all those who go with them... may you have peace!.

i have been coming here for some time (although not in recent months, my sincere apologies) to share with you various truths that i have received from the truth.

for some of you, there has been little or no doubt as to the "authority" by which i share such things, the true source of such understandings: i have not refrained from confessing to you time and again that they are not mine, but are what has been given me by my lord, jaheshua mischajah, son and christ of the most holy one of israel, the god of abraham, isaac and jacob, whose name is jah or armies.

Rabbit

So-crates...was one of the historical personalities picked up by "Bill and Ted", in their "most excellent Adventure." duh...

For more info, switch to "Comedy Central" it's on right now, dudes and dudettes. That's where Shelby was probably inspired herself. Too bad they did not bring back Jesus, they could have asked him stuff. Gumby, would that count as Christs' 2nd coming? lol

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VICTORY FOR MY CHILDREN OVER THE JW'S!

by Corvin in

victory!

the court appointed attorney will be recommending to the judge the following at the hearing tomorrow morning.

unsupervised visits with mom at the children?s request only, away from her home and away from stepfather.

Rabbit

Discussing religion with any of the children is forbidden from this day until they turn 18

REALLY ? Damn...I did not know that was possible. Congrats...

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SHOW DOWN TODAY

by Corvin in

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today, i am taking the girls to meet with the court appointed attorney.

he will interview the girls and me together, then he will interview sara and the girls together.

it is his recommendation to the judge that will decide the outcome of this custody battle.

Rabbit

Good Luck

And remember, even if it doesn't turn out the way you hope, time can heal, too. Now, I have a very good relationship with my oldest child and I really believe as the others get older and more mature...they too will begin to question their Moms' words and actions. Two of 3 do not attend meetings anymore, the other moved out of her Mothers' the day after she turned 18. I think her days a the Kingdom Hall are numbered.

The only thing I could do...was to make sure they always knew I loved them and I was always available to help.

In my case, it took years, but real truth has a way of emerging...eventually.

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It's my opinion...

by teejay in

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i know what i think about the watchtower society.

i know what i think about the current state of the republican party and its standard bearer george w. bush.

i know what i think about the ford motor company.

Rabbit

TJ: How much does your friend's or loved one's opinions influence yours?

If I consider them a friend, I'm more likely to have a lot in common with them already. I am more likely to open up and tell all and even ~~argue~~ debate the point.

If it's a loved one, that's different. I usually know how they believe, if we talk I'll give my opinion -- and then leave it alone if it seems it will only cause a division or hard feelings between us. For instance, my 'worldly' realtives that now know I'm voting this year for the first time. They may never know who I'll vote for, my opinion is not worth making trouble over, in most cases.

Another thing that influences me is their age, experience, and respect they have and show to me and others.

How resistant are you to forming an opinion if you know that it differs from theirs?

I make my decisions after looking at every angle I can, I've been told it's a fault of mine to 'over-analyze' things. If I still disagree, I'll stick with my opinion until I see myself, I'm wrong or shown to be wrong. I have no problem, except for being embarrassed, in admitting it if I err.

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SHOW DOWN TODAY

by Corvin in

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today, i am taking the girls to meet with the court appointed attorney.

he will interview the girls and me together, then he will interview sara and the girls together.

it is his recommendation to the judge that will decide the outcome of this custody battle.

Rabbit

Corvin,

I am hopeful, in your case, since your Judge has already ruled favorably for you...this will indicate his leanings in the future. I actually went thru a very nasty divorce, that in some ways mirrored yours. That long event was and is the hardest thing my family has faced.

Btw, I know Little Toe, he was trying to help. I won't get into y'alls business, tho'. I admire the both of you.

Many Ex-JW's, because of where they just came from, are so afraid to assert themselves and their rights and JW's take advantage of that fear and exploit it. They count on it expecially in custody cases.

This is very true. My JW, X would say and do anything to destroy me and my reputation at the cost of our children, too, if it 'benefit' her. There were many times my lawyer would tell me...we're going to say back the same false accusations -- to her. Everything was going to be tit-for-tat, I said, "No!, she can tell all the lies, I'll take the High Road." She 'won'. I really believed she would 'get in trouble' with the KH over her lies, but, I was the one that wasn't going to meetings, so the Elders told me "...that made me look guilty. They did nothing to her.

What kind of a moron do you I am to let that kind of an attitude be felt by any of the parties involved in this thing? Do you honestly think I sit in front of the attorney and judge or my kids saying these things?

F*ck it, I?m taking her out.

One thing I would be especially careful about IS what you may say here, does she know you post on X-JW Internet Boards ? I do understand you are simply venting. When you said the part about "taking her out"...what a field day she and her lawyer could have with that. All I'm saying is... I am 100% behind you, I wish I had fought with the same fervor that you have been doing. Perhaps mine would not have turned out the way it did.
Just be careful...my friend

And Good Luck !

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have you done things BECAUSE they were condemned by the WTS?

by doogie in

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hey guys,.

since leaving, has anyone done anything specifically because it was condemned by the society?.

- i went and got a tattoo (i had wanted one anyway, but really enjoyed it since it was a no-no...i'm getting a big'n next week...).

Rabbit

That's funny...I was just saying to someone the other day, "I think I'm gonna try and do...at least once...every single thing the WatchTower has condemned."

Would I really...? No, of course not. But, I have done several things that I no longer see as wrong or immoral...in THEIR eyes. And still I can know I am a good person. I am free...

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Do you feel you will always be "different" from the "world" ?

by LyinEyes in

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all of my life,, except for the last two years i was a jw, and i wonder if i will always feel like i am still so very different from the rest of most everyone i know.

i guess i still feel like i am on the "outside" looking in, in on the world of the people i was so alienated from for so long.. i celebrate birthdays, all the holidays, i stand for the national anthemn, but still it does not quiet feel second nature to me .

as i stand watching my son play high school football, my mind is always wandering on the marvel of what i am seeing.

Rabbit

Dede

Wow ,,,,,,,,,,Wow!!!!!!!! Ya'll really do understand exactly what I was trying to convey . Sometimes I type words wondering if anyone will grasp my feeble attempts at claryifying my emotions into words.......and Ya'll really do get exactly what I am saying!!!!!!!

You are actually purdy good at expressing yourself, especially in 'hard to explain feeings.' You can do that much better than you give yourself credit for.

I feel uncomfortable with the after-math of Hurricane JW, too. lol I grew up in a divided family...one half knew the Truth © and the other half were bad, worldly people who were going to die soon at Armegedon. NOW...since I started fading, stopped going to meetings, etc. the dynamics of our family is changing -- dramatically. Old "Allies" in the Troof, now treat me as an 'enemy of the state'...a Benedict Arnold. Even tho' I am not DF/DA. I expect that good deed will not go un-punished. And...my old 'enemies'... *sigh* of Jah, are now very awkwardly I might add...becoming my allies. They know I've registered to vote, they know my 'stand' on blood has changed. So on and so on...

But, sometimes I feel like I am in a 'No Mans Land...' I'm sure as a Witness, I hurt the feelings of family members, that I wasn't allowed or encouraged to 'associate' with. They seem to be happy about my changes, but still 'stand-offish' (a word?) as tho' it may not last. I was talking to one of my non-JW siblings yesterday, trying to 'explain' the 'why' of some of the Witnesses' beliefs. I was trying to tell him what 'worldly' meant...he said, "Oh, I know that, I've been told to my face I was a bad person and was gonna die, because I was worldly." I asked him who said that ? He said it was one of our nieces when she was younger..."Who told you that?", he asked. "My Mom," she answered innocently.

I was flabbergasted. This clearly hurt him...and this is just one story.

In my personal life tho', there's been amazing changes (some of those pendulum swings, lol). I know I will never go back, I am trying to 'right' some wrongs I did as a Witness.

On other things, I will stand to show respect for my country, I still feel like Gumby does about saying the Allegiance to the Flag, birthdays are OK, on Christmas, I have no objection to my 'never been a JW', new wife celebrating it, I have no enthusiasm over it.

Hopefully, someday I will feel truly integrated into normal society.

Here's to all of us struggling at our own pace, with our own past. Salut'