Hmmmmm....just where do y'all think all these 'extra' voters are coming from...eh?
Maybe..X-jw's...? heheheheheheheheheh
Posts by Rabbit
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33News article: No potentially deciding votes among Jehovah's Witnesses
by Wild_Thing in.
sorry if this has already been posted.
it just infuriates me that voting is a desfellowshipping offense.. http://www.mlive.com/news/fljournal/index.ssf?/base/news-24/1099142701308870.xml.
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"Friendship with the world"
by Schizm inadulteresses, do you not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with god?
whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of god.--james 4:4. .
for you who may still believe in the the bible, how do you understand the above text?
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Rabbit
You guys...are really getting bogged down...sheesh !
Let me interject some simple questions: With all the gobble-dee gook about God's or Satan's or mans' responsibility in relation to sin...according to the Bible writers...only 3 people were ever created (by God) that were perfect... Adam, Eve and of course, Jesus, right?
Think about it: Out of God's only 3 perfect human creations ...2\3 of them FAILED a simple loyalty test ! What possible chance do we have being imperfect, with polluted minds and brains, chemical imbalances, retardation, etc., etc.???? NO CHANCE !
Now...What kind of 'fair' God would introduce 'inherited sin' and subsequent death into the gene pool of billions and billions of the innocent offsping of HIS OWN CREATION ? In all His wisdom, could He NOT have foreseen...the thousands upon thousands of years of agony and pain and anguish and wars, that His decision would have upon ALL of innocent mankind ????????
Of course -- HE knew didn't He ??? He SAID (according to the Bible writers) that's what would happen !
What would have been wrong with a really 'patient and loving God'...who would have said,"Well, Adam, Eve... you guys...ya' f**ked up, but, hey...do better next time. After all, eating a piece of fruit, should not condemn you and ALL of mankind to pain, agony and death...should it? Hey...love you guys, too!"
OR: "Hey, you guys, ya' f**ked up for the last time. I told you you'd die, now....ZZZZZTTTTTTTPooooffff !
God: I'll make some NEW improved humans this time.
My simple, simple point is, He, could have simply disciplined the 'guilty' parties all thru mankinds history -- one at a time. If ANY human judge. were to mete out a punishment that would include ALL of the guity person's offspring, too -- he would viewed as barbaric !
To me...that is how I view most of the Bible's 'stories' -- barbaric. I do still believe in a loving God, I just don't think the Bible properly represents him.
Of course, that's only my opinion...and my brain is f**ked up...
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I Voted Today
by willyloman inthis is the second time i've voted this year and i feel great!
what a wonderful thing it is to be able to freely express yourself, take some responsibility, and at least feel like you have some choice in who leads, who calls the shots in this world in which we all live.
and what a contrast with the local kingdom hall, where you don't get to choose the po, you don't get to pick the co, you have no say in who, what, when or where.
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Rabbit
I like Nader better than the other two...but, the last I heard he's only on the ballot in 27 states. I hope this election will cause people to realize how badly we need a 3rd party.
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I'm Off To Vote! Let's see how long it takes them to DF me.....
by SixofNine ini'm going to guess 2 hours and 35 minutes from right now, unless the anouncements run long.
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Rabbit
Sixer, I am very sorry to see you become the next victim of the family shredding policies of the WT. It can still happen to me, too. I hope your family (after the proper greiving period) choose to keep in contact with you.
Sorry, guy...
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Check your medical records!!
by Wallflower ini never thought would my jw upbringing would ever come back to haunt me, but it sure gave me a jolt today.. brought up as a jw from birth.
my father always an elder and my mother the prima donna, we were at every assembly and meeting, there was always the home study, field service, had the co stay with a few times, we moved to where the need was greatest in 1974, (moved back in 1989).
at about 1 or 2 years old, so i was told, i should have an operation to have my adenoids(?!
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Rabbit
It is scary how these things can "pop-up". I had back surgery earlier this year. I told my surgeon that I had changed my mind and do not consider myself a JW. He said they always use "Cell saver" technology and other things to keep from getting into that position of needing a transfusion. I loved the smile he gave me, he looked me all over, almost as tho' he didn't really know me. He could tell this was a big deal for me and said "Well...alright, there should be no need, but, thank you and I will put it in your record right now.
I explained...some JW relatives might be there and under NO circumstances was anyone to come out an "talk" with anyone, if there had been the need for a transfusion -- except the designated people. He said, "No problem, that's very easily done with the Privacy Laws nowadays." I also explained what the JW's could do, if my 'change of heart' was found out. He knew about the 'issue' but, had no idea there was any 'punishment'.
Then, just before the surgery...I found (in horror) my tattered Blood Card, signed by an Elder and me -- in my wallet !
Since then I have signed a "Living Will" and a directive about life-saving measures. And I have given copies to my wife and Dad (the alternates).
Funny thing...one of my most brain-washed JW sisters has back trouble, too. She asks about the Doctor, "Yeah...but (fishing ) how is he about the Blood issue ???" I said, "No problem...no problem at all..."
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"we're just going to be dead" Dec. 1 2004 Watchtower
by metatron inthe latest watchtower carries a warning (pg16).
" what if there are some in the christian congregation who live double lives?
.... "one day one of them said to me:'it doesn't matter what we do now because when the.
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Rabbit
I remember that always bothering me. It seemed to me everybody that died in past history was getting a "Free Pass" as far as Armeggedon was concerned. When I was told people like Hitler might be resurrected...I thought "Why should God be so hard on us, just because we are living now?"
Of course the answer was always, "Because it's the 'Time of the End' and the 'Good News' will have been preached to everyone"
At the time, I just had real 'faith', now I have real knowledge.
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I Voted Today
by willyloman inthis is the second time i've voted this year and i feel great!
what a wonderful thing it is to be able to freely express yourself, take some responsibility, and at least feel like you have some choice in who leads, who calls the shots in this world in which we all live.
and what a contrast with the local kingdom hall, where you don't get to choose the po, you don't get to pick the co, you have no say in who, what, when or where.
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Rabbit
My wife and I early voted today. It was much simpler than I thought. The only thing I was dismayed at was, there was several offices to be voted on -- that I had never heard of. No ads, nothing in our local paper. I even went to the internet for my small town newspaper, back several months for anything political. And I looked up both parties websites. I found a lot and read up on each candidate and made my decision. I could find nothing that showed the different maps of all the different districts.
Still, I'm glad I did vote for the first time in my life. As I walked out, I was smiling and felt 'giddy', just knowing I am giving myself a voice...by throwing off the WT chains.
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3 Weddings --------------> NO PARENTS ATTENDED !
by Rabbit injust a few weeks ago i was trying to console bryan, whose jw daughter had informed him -- he was not welcome at her wedding.
i told him this has happened twice to me already...http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/79259/1287354/post.ashx#1287354 (sorry the link doesn't seem to work, you may have to copy n' paste it)
well, i just found out...all my kids are now married.
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Rabbit
Jez sez:
What a blessing that they married "worldly" men!! That is really really really great news
That still sounds 'odd' to say doesn't it ? But, yes...it is good news. Instead of having their mother as the main influence in their lives -- they will have their husband and family to pick away at the JW armor. They are still holding on to a hollow belief, surely it will collapse under the pressure that will be there. One of the son-in-laws I do get along with, the others don't live close at all. I have respected their wishes...that I not call them. I do get to visit with my grandson, that is amazing, since when he was born I was told he would never know who I was. I am hoping my main way to the others hearts will be thru my oldest daughter. I'm not glad to see others go thru this, but, somehow it helps knowing I'm not alone here. -
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3 Weddings --------------> NO PARENTS ATTENDED !
by Rabbit injust a few weeks ago i was trying to console bryan, whose jw daughter had informed him -- he was not welcome at her wedding.
i told him this has happened twice to me already...http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/79259/1287354/post.ashx#1287354 (sorry the link doesn't seem to work, you may have to copy n' paste it)
well, i just found out...all my kids are now married.
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Rabbit
Granny Linda:
When my brother was at the tender age of 5, my mother came home from her personal book study with the "knowledge" that the woman's husband was demonized because he was having seizures. No medical reason why, don't ya know, just those nasty, pesty demons.
Yep, forgot to add that, I like Avashai, have epilepsy. This certainly did not help...it was a way for their mother to say "See...look at him, he's capable of anything...no telling WHAT he might do!" She really said that, too. During the divorce (bad) my X demanded I be tested psychologically, as she said, "It will prove my point." My Doctor who was treating me for depression actually laughed...all the tests had already been done. She said, "Well, that sunk your wife's ship." I was extremely normal. I just had depression...go figure 'why'! Bryan, I am sorry for what happened with you, especially about the "Uncle Bob" thing. I know how that hurts. My X told my then young, scared, confused, easily influenced kids -- I was not really 'acting' like a true Dad, that's when they started calling me by my first name. It's still that way now...for the two I still don't see much. It's like the sound of my name goes thru my heart like a knife every time it's used that way. Many, many times I've asked my X to correct them about this -- it's at the very least, disrespectful to me. She just acts innocent and says "I can't make them say something they don't feel." Nah...she has no influence at all. Sassy, do you feel like the Elders will just show up some day to DF you? I know I do, for some reason it seems they've forgotten me. I'm glad, because, if they do catch up and make my shunning "Official" they may isolate my children permanently. Thank you everybody...I know from prior experience -- 'this too will pass" sometimes tho' it feels as if it never will. -
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3 Weddings --------------> NO PARENTS ATTENDED !
by Rabbit injust a few weeks ago i was trying to console bryan, whose jw daughter had informed him -- he was not welcome at her wedding.
i told him this has happened twice to me already...http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/79259/1287354/post.ashx#1287354 (sorry the link doesn't seem to work, you may have to copy n' paste it)
well, i just found out...all my kids are now married.
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Rabbit
Meds...? When I was still together with her and struggling to be a better JW...(I was failing miserably) I tried to commit suicide. I went on meds for major depression. My X told my kids I was spiritually sick and unstable -- evidenced by my overdose, then finally, "...your Dad is demonized, must be...how else could he do that?"
She really told them that...