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  ZERO FOUND THIS-ELDER'S MEETING

  by ashitaka in

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  zero did all the work and found this.

  just wanted to post it on a thread, because some lurkers might not want to go off site to look at stuff.

  hats off to zero.. .

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  Andee

  Thank you, Zero and Ashi.

  As sinister as I think the WTS to be, I am still amazed when I actually read it as it comes out of their mouths.

  The Internet and online discussion boards are a real threat to their control. So powerful is the access of information. How it must feel like sand in their fist. The tighter one squeezes to hold on to the sand, the more it slips through their fingers.

  It reminds of why the Soviets were able to keep such tight control of such a huge land mass and diverse population for so many years. It was the ability to control the spread of information. For a private citizen to own a copy machine held a penalty of imprisonment. When one of their various branches of government had "a" copy machine it was kept in a vault and only a select few had access to it.

  The WTS may not be able to put people in prison, however, they make it clear that to view "unauthorized" information threatens "spiritual strength" and any chance at paradise.

  Bottom line: You're burnt toast at Armageddon.

  Andee
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  A Walk Through The Garden part 3

  by radar in

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  no room to grow .

  young people are expected to associate only with fellow jws.

  if attending school, then involvement with any school activity or association outside of school hours is frowned upon.

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  Andee

  Radar,

  A bible study for someone suicidal? Yeah, and let's throw some gasoline on a raging fire.

  I just wanted to let you know I am following your story. Looking forward to part 4.

  Andee
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  Sum everything up with just one sentence???

  by Celtic in

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  what you got to say, in a nutshell?.

  peace.

  celtic

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  I'm always right .

  Andee
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  To: Ex-JW Women - Your Side

  by Amazing in

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  ex-jw women: i, and i assume other ex-jw men, would enjoy hearing your views, opinions, feelings, analysis, and conclusions about your jw experience.

  how did you feel about your husband, fathers, brothers, elders, ms's, and other women in the organizations?

  did you generally feel oppression, and why?

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  Andee

  Hey Hemp!

  Glad you decided to lose your posting virginity!

  WELCOME!

  Andee

  Hey! Come on, ladies, let's hear from you!
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  The plants that JW's love to hate

  by Mindchild in

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  most people who have any sustained contact with jehovahs witnesses soon discover that this organization is rather tough on certain types of plants.

  it is easy to see that small forests have been sacrificed over the decades to make the multiple millions of publications for the evangelical work or that many plants that are commonly used for personal drug use are condemned, but most people dont know about a few lonely plants growing somewhere in california that really irk the witnesses.

  these plants have a very interesting story to tell.

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  Andee

  In Spanish the bush is called hediondilla, “little stinker,” because of its rather offensive smell after a rain.

  What??? Skipper! How dare you attempt to sully the aromatic reputation of our beloved Creosote bush!

  Everyone I know loves the smell of Creosote, after a nice rainstorm.

  Then again, we all like it when it's 110 degrees outside too.

  Andee
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  I love my children! Want to see their pictures?

  by WildHorses in

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  steve 17 .

  manuel 12 .

  nicole 9 .

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  Hey Lilacs!

  Thanks for sharing your kids with us . They are a greatlooking bunch.

  Andee
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  My Story ..A Walk Through The Garden. part 1

  by radar in

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  when jehovahs witnesses first started calling on my wife and i, we knew very little about the bible.

  the message that this world with all its wickedness and suffering was soon to end and be replaced by a new order under the rulership of christ jesus was very appealing to me.

  to believe that god had a purpose for mankind, gave my life a new direction.. acceptance of watchtower doctrine along with its rules and regulations is expected of any that wish to be baptized.

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  Radar, you wrote:

  If you are asking me do I have faith in God, the answer is that I do not have faith in the God of the Bible. Yet I do believe there is more to life than meets the eye, I try to keep an open mind on things these days.

  Beautifully and succinctly put! That mirrors so much of how I view the whole God "thing".

  Thanks for sharing you story. I look forward to part 2.

  Andee
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  To: Ex-JW Women - Your Side

  by Amazing in

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  ex-jw women: i, and i assume other ex-jw men, would enjoy hearing your views, opinions, feelings, analysis, and conclusions about your jw experience.

  how did you feel about your husband, fathers, brothers, elders, ms's, and other women in the organizations?

  did you generally feel oppression, and why?

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  Andee

  Ok, Ok...

  I will explain what I meant by that comment. Since it has been quoted twice.

  My reason for wondering is that to be a highly intelligent, opinionated woman in the WTS must be extremely stressful. All the more that has to be stifled. The years of simmering resentment has to take it's toll. I read a post by Amnesian, and if I remember correctly, where a motion made by a brother and there were NO other brothers to second the motion, they were all in the parking lot. The only people in the hall were sisters and they just sat silently, unable to even second a silly motion. I believe her comment to her spouse was that "any sorry-ass brother was better than a sister". I hope I got that right, Amnesian .

  I can only imagine years of the years of witnessing this sort of sadly comical situation. By virtue of one's genitia, over and over, being shown, subtly, and many times, overtly, that any man, be he the most numb-skulled, pathetic excuse for a human being, is much more of an asset than any female. Especially, if her position of employment, in the world, includes having males as subordinates.

  I was thinking out loud, I suppose. It was intended as more of a rhetorical question. It was not my implication that woman of average, and less than average, intelligence do not suffer emotionally by the hands of the WTS. Some have, some do, and it will continue until the WTS, either changes beyond recognition, or falls completely.

  Andee
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  To: Ex-JW Women - Your Side

  by Amazing in

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  ex-jw women: i, and i assume other ex-jw men, would enjoy hearing your views, opinions, feelings, analysis, and conclusions about your jw experience.

  how did you feel about your husband, fathers, brothers, elders, ms's, and other women in the organizations?

  did you generally feel oppression, and why?

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  Andee

  6 of 9,

  You found that funny? Interesting.

  Andee
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  To: Ex-JW Women - Your Side

  by Amazing in

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  ex-jw women: i, and i assume other ex-jw men, would enjoy hearing your views, opinions, feelings, analysis, and conclusions about your jw experience.

  how did you feel about your husband, fathers, brothers, elders, ms's, and other women in the organizations?

  did you generally feel oppression, and why?

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  Andee

  Hello all,

  I really don't have a story to share what it was like to be woman in the WTS. I was out long before I became an adult. However, reading the preceding experiences helps me to understand a bit better somethings I have noticed in my own upbringing, and even here on JW.com

  My Grandmother (Father's Mother) was a very dominating woman. Not just opinionated, but downright opressive at times, especially when it came to my Dad. My Father's parents did study, but never joined. My father did, and as a teenager, was baptised. I think that one of the things that attracted him was the dominant, unquestioned authority, males held within the WTS. He married my Mom when she was still a child of 14 at the KH and proceeded to be a tyrant of a husband, and later, father.

  I realize that there are many oppressive, controlling males are were never JWs. Yet, being on this board and reading other information, I realize how much the WTS sanctions and promotes this appalling behavior in it's male members. Any opinions and outspokeness from it's female members is quickly quashed. This sounds alot like my growing up experience. My Father tolerated NO opinions contrary to his in our house. He also demeaned my sister and I if we did get the courage to speak up. My sister tells me of the time when my Dad
  called her a "dumb broad" as a kid for some silly error she made.

  I could go on and on, but I realize that I am off topic already

  I have also noticed that the males on the board almost never post of having to fight depression while in the Org. It is nearly, if not always, the females. I wonder if it is not the most opinionated, and perhaps, intelligent, that suffer the most? We woman tend to internalize our anger and frustration, so I suppose I should not be suprised by my observation. It's also not suprising that the depression lifts upon leaving.

  Reading this has also helped me to understand myself a bit more. Both my sister and I struggled with depression. Neither one of us really came into our own until we were in our 30's. For most of our 20's we sputtered along attempting to come to grips with our oppressive and traumatic upbringing, which was influenced by the WTS doctrine.

  Now that I have turned 40, I think I have finally defined who I am. Freespirited, outspoken, opinionated, openminded, and blessed a wicked sense of humor.

  Thank you all for sharing.

  Andee