okay ... i know that there are a lot of depressing stories about people leaving the borg ... i personally am very happy that people are leaving.
totally miserable ~~ before i could leave successfully.
and believe me, the elders made it possible for me to be v-e-r-y miserable!!!
For example, if you are in a new and loving relationship, and one of those old beliefs kicks in, say, "I am undeserving of blessings if I am not a dub," then you will end up sabatoging your new loving relationship, because your subconscious says you are undeserving of something so nice and so wonderful
I have found this to be very true.
thanks for this great post
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since the watchtower society has been reorganized and split up in all these (sub)corporations, i wonder where the real power is located.
my guess would be the wtbts of pennsylvania, inc. other ideas?
Just had to say how much I love Gerard's graphic ......brilliant. and is probably true.
i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.
however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.
frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.
I do believe in creation that is one thing I know for sure.
so then do I believe in a Creator, or do I believe in Creators?
Really as Jw's we believed in Creators ie both Jesus and God himself.
but then why were we created? One question leads to another and another......
i find myself going through the motions whenever holiday time rolls around, you know, just going with the crowd, etc., but in my heart of hearts holidays mean nothing to me; so i don't ever feel like decorating or doing anything personally that is holiday-related.
am i the only one who feels this way?
could it be a result of my jw upbringing?
I haven't been able to make my mind up about christmas or easter and haven't celebrated them yet.
But celebrating Birthdays came easily.......................
i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.
however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.
frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.
Life was certainly much simpler inside Watchtower... <sigh>
I am thinking about this comment too and in some ways you are so right
no thinking was really needed
do you remember some years ago they (that is wtbts) talked about "perma-frost" of the brain it was like a double bluff...............
but does it really matter what any of of believes ??????
so, i got home from my tryst and sure enough, everyone knew all the details.
so a judicial comittee was set up.
i was accused of coercing a happily married woman to drive 8 hours to spend 4 days with me in various hotel rooms all at her husband's expense.
You know I too should be disfellowshipped but because I knew how to play the rules I knew how to side step it, which doesn't seem fair.
but I know a lot of elders avoid like the plague judicial meetings, they hate them having to judge others and some elders just seem to lap it up.
I do hope Aaron that you find some peace.
i'm a recent departee and am now re-evaluating all my previous beliefs and there's none more fundamental.
however, i'm not sure where to start: i'm sure i don't need to say there's an enormous amount of nonsense out there.
frankly, in spite of their other stupid teachings, i am considering reviewing again the articles in wt library as i think they do try to sincerely prove the existence of god.
I just want to thank you for posing such a direct question. I know this sounds daft but since I left JWs I haven't thought about such a basic fundamental. I shall now though.
i have heard some people say that they have low self esteem.
i don't understand that.
why did you choose to have low self esteem?
Having low self esteem and being a JW are in my opinion linked , we were always told to 'exert ourselves' 'why aren't you a pioneer?' "if you aren't wrestling then you were losing the battle"
I used to live on the planet Guilton when I was a witness, I was constantly doing things for others putting myself out but I never felt it was good enough.
low self esteem and being a female JW are part and parcel.
not as good with words as others but I shall have a go
just found it.
i had been surfing around was born into the jw faith and was a po's wife for about 15 years and am now out in the big bad world and finding it slightly awesome.
interested to see what happens now on in.
thank you
have been reading all day and nothing I have read so far has surprised me at all
I was a JW for a hell of a long time a life time in fact and it isn't that easy to stop defending it even when you know they haven't got it right know what I mean
just found it.
i had been surfing around was born into the jw faith and was a po's wife for about 15 years and am now out in the big bad world and finding it slightly awesome.
interested to see what happens now on in.
just found it
I had been surfing around was born into the JW faith and was a PO's wife for about 15 years and am now out in the big bad world and finding it slightly awesome
interested to see what happens now on in
