'This is my simple religeon. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.' ~The Dali Lama~
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WHO'S ARE YOU???
by ebonychristian inhello, my name is ebonychristian (ebony=caribbean {black}, christian=i am a protestant).
i am an evangelist, and debating is my passion.
my email address is [email protected], and please, feel free to use it.
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Impregnated with Wrong Sperm
by simplesally indid you read the story about the lady who got inseminated with the wrong sperm?
it was not her fiance's sperm, who is black, the lady is black as well.
it should be a happy time for 40-year-old laura howard of trumbull.
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Evesapple
First of all, as many of us have learned on being "out" of the JW association is being less judgemental. To accuse this woman of being selfish Elsewhere is a bit harsh. You don't know the conversation she and her fiancee have had, obviously they are still together.....it's a terrible mistake, but nonetheless a child was produced, from her perspective, the right thing to do is still have this baby. what if she tried again later and then never got pregnant....yes their are a lot of needy children out there, but don't be so judgemental because someone chooses to have a baby naturally and go thru a lot of procedures to get there. What she has right to is the child's natural father's health record.....the doctor f**d up, his resolve was a quick fix cover up....the morning after pill.....I'm quite certain he will be more careful next time.
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In All Honesty, Are You A Happier Person Now Than when You Were A JW?
by minimus injws say, "the apostates are miserable!!
".....do you feel miserable?
(i don't).
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Evesapple
Friend:
You are unlike anyother witness out there.....they don't share your same point of view....I'm quite certain if you had mentioned your visits on this site to your fellow bros. and sis's they would surely frown.
Willyloman:
Your advice is perfect.....get out and get invovled in something, I couldn't agree more. I know that's what helped me. I also have found that JW's were wrong about people in the world.....I have met truely wonderful friends that have unconditional love, not based on what I believe....but love me for who I am. Happiness doesn't find you, you have to find it.....and there is a lot of good there, based on my 9 years of experience.
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In All Honesty, Are You A Happier Person Now Than when You Were A JW?
by minimus injws say, "the apostates are miserable!!
".....do you feel miserable?
(i don't).
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Evesapple
A friend in need:
I respect your honesty and that you are happy now, you are absolutely correct we all need to find what is good for us. However, and not to get off the topic......did you know that you are talking to many non-JW's, especially ones who have been DF'd and DA'd....did you know that in the JW teaching, you're not supposed to be associating w/us? So, why are you here???? just a little confused about your statement, your actions seem to contradict your belief in "the teachings".....
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lonliness after leaving
by orbison11 injust wondering, did any of you become hermit like after leaving.
i see many of you are able to carry on.
maybe with the help of non-jw family, etc.. but for me, i lost all family and i am having a hard time with acquiring friends, although i have many many aquaintances.
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Evesapple
Usually, I just listen to everyone else's life stories and be glad that they are not asking me about mine. It is not very healthy because I haven't really given anyone a chance to be a friend back to me. I just get this overwhelming feeling that NO ONE would understand anyway.
I remember feeling this, it's hard, and it takes time. It's all a part of trust, letting go and when you feel it's the right time to disclose your life story to someone you will, don't feel you have to...you don't. However, when you do, believe it or not, no one will look at you funny or wierd....true they may not understand, my husband still struggles with it....but they won't think you are wierd. Everyone has their own story in life....you may find yours is not as far fetched as many out there. I'm still slowly telling friends about my past.....those that are acquaintances I don't bother....because it takes to much energy to explain, besides I don't know everyone elses life story either. Those that I do become close too, or want to become close too, I slowly let it trickle out.....usually over a great cocktail, sometimes that helps.
Congratulations Eddie on your pregnancy.....I had a baby boy 13 months ago, and my family never came to see him.....as far as I'm concerned, Matt only has one set of grandparents....it's sad....but try and stay focused on the positives in your life right now, it sounds like you have a few to be thankful for.
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In All Honesty, Are You A Happier Person Now Than when You Were A JW?
by minimus injws say, "the apostates are miserable!!
".....do you feel miserable?
(i don't).
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Evesapple
100% happier...even though shunned by my immediate family....i have my own family now...and it's wonderful....i wish they could comprehend it......can't explain to them my feelings, they just have to walk in my shoes.....my very happy shoes!
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lonliness after leaving
by orbison11 injust wondering, did any of you become hermit like after leaving.
i see many of you are able to carry on.
maybe with the help of non-jw family, etc.. but for me, i lost all family and i am having a hard time with acquiring friends, although i have many many aquaintances.
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Evesapple
Orb....how long you been out? For me it's been 9 years. I had a hard time initially, came home and cried many times, not being able to call anyone, and even if I did the only thing I'd hear is, 'it's how you are supposed to feel...it's the discipline, you have to come back to meetins' blah, blah, blah.....
My best advice, you have to get out there, make friends......go out for happy hour, join a group, a book club, whatever you might enjoy...take advantage of your freedom to choose and find out who you are. You can make friends on this side...and guess what? no one judges you on how you live your life, and what you want to believe in....and those that do, are not friends. Have fun! Just make the effort.....good luck! It gets a whole lot better...so much better that you'll look back and say, "i'm glad I'm out of there" The Journey of a thousand miles starts from beneath your feet" Go for it!
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Who's been around the most?
by blobby in.
how far travelled are you?.
how many different countries have you visited in your life time.......................can't name the same country twice ....even if it has changed names.. countries on other planets don't count !.
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Evesapple
England
Paris/Nice/Cannes etc.
Italy (well just over the border along the coast)
Copenhagen, Denmark
Yugoslavia (back in 76 when it was whole)
Munich, Germany
Mexico (all over)
Costa Rica
Carribean
U.S. coast to coast
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Were You Treated With Respect When Counseled By The Elders?
by minimus ini knew a certain few elders that really got off by "talking down" to the "flock".
many elders were pretty nice guys but a few could turn----just like that!
what was your experience with "those taking the lead", the "loving shepherds"???
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Evesapple
findingme....
very similar circumstances.....the elders got very personal...way too personal....asking questions that I felt were inappropriate...maybe they got off on it, who knows......it was wierd, from that moment on, I knew I would never go back......I'd have to go through another interrogation committee.....
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daily text..
by dalejr#8 in.
i have a question.... i have looked on a lot of sites but cant find the daily text anywhere... does anyone know if the daily text is found on any of the jehovah's witness sites?
i appreciate all help.
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Evesapple
hey bav!
How are you? where have you been?
