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to tell the truth, i am surprised that they call on me anymore since they know who i am.
just curious as to what you all say to them now that you know what they really represent.. jean
Apologies, I lost the point on my last post!
I now live in adifferent area. Therefore when the JW's called after letting them know of my bad experience, I told them to put me down as a DNC. Happy to say they have respected that and I can now declare myself as a JW fee zone
Bay64me
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to tell the truth, i am surprised that they call on me anymore since they know who i am.
just curious as to what you all say to them now that you know what they really represent.. jean
There was a time when I was really bothered! No longer. The break came when I finally came clean and told them just how I felt. I expressed my disappointments, my hurt feelings, my grievances and my pent up pain and anger (If interested please see previous posts). I expected that I would be disfellowshipped. I even called the elders and arranged a meeting at my home to tell them that I wanted to disassociate myself. Their response was that I should leave it!......and leave it they have for quite some time!
My reasonings are that because, (and I don't mean this boastfully, only by their standards)......my family were at one time such 'sterling examples' of what J.W.s should be, ie pioneering, regular attendance, used often in TMS and service meetings, answering up regularly at WT study, on the platform at conventions, blah blah, blah! (All fantastic on the exterior) ...........I feel that because our congregation was in such a state of flux at the time of our departure, this was enough to cause severe doubts and concerns amongst the flock that any subsequent disawhatever would only add fuel to the already ignited fire of doubt that prevailed. Therefore I have been left!
Bay64me
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anyone taking a chance on glastonbury this year?
i hear it is going to be a lottery to get tickets.. i may boycott the whole idea, and next year will be a no no anyway.
(don't think i want to subject myself to disappointment again).
Satanus,
Will you be gracing us with your presence at any of Englands' notorious, albeit heathen festivals?
Bay64me
anyone taking a chance on glastonbury this year?
i hear it is going to be a lottery to get tickets.. i may boycott the whole idea, and next year will be a no no anyway.
(don't think i want to subject myself to disappointment again).
Anyone taking a chance on Glastonbury this year? I hear it is going to be a lottery to get tickets.
I may boycott the whole idea, and next year will be a no no anyway. (don't think I want to subject myself to disappointment again). I may renew my interest with a new found vigour in 2007!?
I'm going to the V festival. I went last year and it was amazing. I know it has it's knockers but My experience was totally stress-free, we camped in a fabulous location and the notorious toilets were half decent (which has to be a bonus). The atmosphere was fantastic and the campsite on the evenings after the bands had finished was a knockout. I have never laughed so much in my life, my belly ached!
Who is doing what this year?
Bay64me
every time i've attended a dc in an indoor arena, i 've noticed a u.s. flag hanging on the rafters or somewhere prominently displayed.
of course it is a permanent fixture of the arena.
anyways, since national flags are symbols of idolatry.
If you notice this notice you wil notice that this notice has been noticed (or something to that effect)
Apologies for incorrectness, (did anybody notice)?
Bay64me
having had my 1-2-1 with my boss yesterday on my performance in managing an acute surgical ward, she informs me that she expects me to commence a course in critical care at degree level commencing september.
the reason being our surgical ward is being converted into a high dependancy unit (like an itu) and she wants me to manage it and gain the necessary skills.
i already have a diploma in higher ed.
Just go for it!
There will be a thousand reasons for you opting out and it will not be easy. My course has caused me to have serious doubts about why I started it in the first place. I have met challenges and obstacles and moments when I have thought fuck, I just can't do it! but I have! (I'm half way through my degree)
I am a single parent, four children, work 16 hours per week and do voluntary work also.......I manage. I am doing fine, my grades are good. I still maintain a good relationship with my children, they support me wholeheartedly and I don't hold back on showing the love I have for them. I do what I do not only for me but for them. I want this qualification so much and I work really hard.
There is always support, I always ask if I'm stuck, it's not easy, don't believe anyone that tells you it is. But if you're prepared to work and you really want it, you will succeed.
I have met friends on my course that I now consider to be potentially life-long. We speak regularly on the phone and keep in touch via email. We help each other out and there is always a brain to pick and sometimes someone will pick yours!
I liken my present quest to my attitude to driving. I never thought I'd be able to do it but then replaced that thought with......if 'they' can do it......so can I.
I wish you well,
Bay64me
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must dash,got a seat booked at the minibus cafe!.
my driver will be coming for me any moment now!.
Gossip was rife in my congregation but I suppose that with all of the rules we were meant to adhere to, merely by being human some if not all were bound to fail at some point.
We did have the really prolific gossipers though. These types were particularly eschewed by the upright, those "at the centre of the congregation".
The funny thing was though that although many talks delivered from the platform condemned such practices, gossip in many ways brought a welcome relief to the usual adherence to rules.
My view is that gossip per se can be damaging and 'not right' but in my experience the gossip I was privvy to gave me a valuable insight and the realisation that people are only human.........It helped me to break away!
Bay64me
here is an a short article i liked a lot.
it explains the dynamics we often see in our former groups.
why bad beliefs don't die.
I enjoyed reading this post.
By sheer coincidence I have just had an exam today where one of the questions was to outline the processes that underpin false beliefs. During my research one of the main conclusions that I drew was the misperception of randomness: e.g Carl jung and how his theory of synchronicity that he attributes to an unknown force accounts for the many coincidences that occur far more frequently than one might expect and its many similarities to how religous adherents claim that coincidences are acts of god.
According to sociocognitive theory, false beliefs are maintained quite often and especially if the individual has invested vast amounts of time, money, energy etc, usually in an attempt to save 'face'. This is known as cognitive dissonance whereby the individual desiring to alleviate discord, will elevate or extoll the virtues of said practice and downplay the weaknesses.
Facinating subject.
Bay64me
growing up in the jw religion and having a dad who was an elder, i remember how controlling they were.
i find it amazing now just how much of my childhood i missed out on.
i couldn't watch alot of t.v.
Yes my parents were control freaks.
I was not brought up as a JW. I became a JW to escape the life that I inherited from my disfunctional 'worldly' family.
My parents didn't allow me to think for myself. If I laughed I was being silly, if I cried I was being a baby. If I spoke of an acheivment I was being boastful, if I looked sad I was ungrateful. I was not allowed to own my own feelings and emotions. I had to be what they wanted me to be. My childhood was damaged severely with abuse and neglect.
I was always dressed well and from the outside my family and our home looked just fine and 'normal'.
Jehovahs witnesses are guilty of many things but are in no way unique in the bad parenting styles that they adopt. There are probably better JW parents around than my 'worldly parents and vice versa. I don't neccessarily think that bad parenting is pertinent to JWs.
