Morning Worship
"My ally in whom I trusted, even he who shares my bread, has been utterly false to me."-- Psalms 41:10 JPS
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Morning Worship
"My ally in whom I trusted, even he who shares my bread, has been utterly false to me."-- Psalms 41:10 JPS
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Outlaw summed it up for me-Morpheus
If you mean: "Incoherent rage'", you are posting your conclusions about me. In a previous post, I informed you and cappy ( I just learned from one of his his posts and photo on Flipper post, that he is also an ex-Bethelite, )that I was/am not angry. We are only having a discussion. I am hurt however, that you have posted, that you view your service, that you believed was to God, with disrespect.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
I finally found something that Fisherman said that I can agree with
If you were never a JW,, neither does the WT teach 1914.
When you were a JW, at what time did you wake people up from their sleep with the magazines on their only day off, at 3:00 AM or 4:00 AM ?
Why did you only do the houses with people sleeping on their only day off when everyone else waited till 10:00 AM or later to knock on doors? Was it deliberate or only a coincidence?
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Witnesses prefer to cloak their actions in secrecy ie back room, secret elder manuals, letters that only elders are privy to, the inner workings of the governing body, the child sex abuse scandal. etc.
Yeah, I see what you and others mean. There is too much privacy going on everywhere in society and too much confidentiality and too many copyrights and cherry picking on Biget Trees.. Shouldnt people be allowed to do whatever they want? It is usually for neferious rerasons that peopple send emails. And they usually have motives to expect them from from being read. That should be wrong! It is an axiom that Marvin only has Doctorate in Law and that is why he does not like things private too and tells his clients that it does not apply for him because confidentiality is wrong due to the fact that the witnesses have too much privacy!!!!!!!! insofar as I can see nothing remarkable. And that is why it is a mole hill and a circus. And that is why he clearly says that PM are gifts to be published always. But not sometimes because it is a gift. It is comical for someone to expect his PM not to be plublished because Marvin knows "OTHERWISE!!!" Because publishing a PM is responsible and moral and eihical because it is a gift ( except for sometimes otherwise) especially on this thread because the WTS has too much privacy anyway and thus Marvin chooses his morality from his point of view looking back at his posts in terms of time. When I do not like what a post said , he is a troll!!!! because I do not like his post. And I play the fidlle too and violin abot marvin and it breaks privacy rules to send emails and it breaks privacy rules to expect email not to be published for the simple fact that it is comical. I do not decide when two people have a dispute I chose (as far as I can see) And that is why it is always a gift to publish PM. And Marvin knows the south side viewpoint insofar as I can see, otherwise because after reading a PM, Marvin chooses (not to decide, What"? A Cherry picker?) And that is why the sender is unethical and not the publisher because after reading the PM, insofar as I can see. And that is why I choose what is moral for myself. The sender should not send a PM!!!!!
And I am right because I say so. And If I am not right, the person must be taking meds because I do not understand or like his post. . (except for Marvin) Because I cannot respond to the subject but I can say funny things about the person that is posting. I am smart.
And everybody is always right except that FM is always wrong because everybody says so and because Marvin chose it.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Well I gave you a chance to prove your point Fishermen. recovering
I am sure you did with all your Phds and all. Besides that, your bigotry is obvious, starting with your first post.
Please, "go back and read" Marvin post and my post about PMs and then you decide if you will do what Morpheus did to me. But frankly, to quote Marvin, "I do not care" what you think.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
You are the one who broke privacy rules here, Not M--Violas
How?
You a mole, Fishermen?
"Red Herring, read about it!"- Learn from Marvin. Stop being his blind follower.
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Morpheus we are just having a discussion here, that is all. Relax
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
Sometimes disclosing private communication is unethical and/or illegal- Marvin
And you do not get to decide. Thank you for listening Marvin
so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
This is said from an ethical perspective and not a legal one, though these two perspectives often overlap.Marvin
"Unless the recipient has some duty of confidentiality (e.g., physician-patient, attorney-client, trade secret disclosed in communication), the recipient is free to share the information with anyone. However, under some circumstances, the sender might sue the recipient for publicity given to private life, under Restatement (Second) Torts ยง 652D (1977)." In summary, the author of an e-mail message generally can not prevent disclosure of the message by the recipient.
Sometimes, attorneys misuse the phrase "e-mail" to describe
messages sent to a group of people in a chat room. Such
communications to a chat room fail the second part of the Katz test,
since society does not recognize a reasonable expectation of privacy
in disclosures made in a public forum. In a chat room, there will be
people who are unknown to the author of communications with the chat
room, so there can be no legitimate expectation of privacy in a chat
room.
Use of a chat room must be carefully distinguished from
sending e-mail to one person, which is a private communication,
analogous to a telephone call or first-class letter via the U.S. Post
Office. U.S. v. Charbonneau, 979 F.Supp. 1177 (S.D.Ohio
1997) <reasonable expectation of privacy>
What is your point of view Marvin? Seems to me that it is not good
advice to tell someone that they acted responsibly when disclosing the
contents of private communication. At the very least the person could open
themselves to legal problems. And, is it really a gift when the gift is governed by law? And if in some cases a Court of Law can rule that disclosing a private communication is wrong conduct. who are you to decide that doing so is ethical and responsible and a gift when it is contingent not on the receiver (as you have ass erted) but on the sender (who can reasonably expect privacy, and can claim that he was harmed), the contents, and the Courts. Does ethical and legal conduct overlap when a Judge decides that the conduct was wrong?
Disclosing private communication is wrong conduct . Do things responsibly and ethically, ask the sender first.