Posts by Fisherman

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Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.

by Lee Elder in

this has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.

i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.

is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.

Fisherman

Should doctors tell....

Why not?

Doctor: "Hello, my name is doctor Itz Myduty Tokeepyoualive." " I was told you are JW and do not want blood medicine?"

Patient: "Yes, I am JW and I do not want a blood transfusion."

Doctor: "I am not God but I do know this, you are bleeding to death and you will die without one."

Patient: "If you are not God, then how do you know I will die without one?"

Doctor:" I know from experience that people have been known to die from old age, drowning, falling and landing on their heads, when they eat poison, and a lot of other causes too, like in your case, bleeding." ". By the way, are you of the anointed because if you are, when you die you are going directly to heaven, you know??

Patient: "No, I am OS."

Doctor: "How do you know?"

Patient: "A recent WT article explains that those of the anointed have clear and convincing evidence from God- so they know."

Doctor: "Do you have clear and convincing evidence from God that HE does not want YOU to get a blood transfusion?"

Patient: unconscious....expires.

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legal action to Baptism of minor annulled?

by cyberjesus in

let's imagine that a 10 year old gets baptized.

parents split and kid never goes back to the hall again.

15 years later kid celebrates christmas and gets df since some dub saw him celebrating.

Fisherman

Ahh, but they do qualify to be baptized,

Sometimes yes.

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legal action to Baptism of minor annulled?

by cyberjesus in

let's imagine that a 10 year old gets baptized.

parents split and kid never goes back to the hall again.

15 years later kid celebrates christmas and gets df since some dub saw him celebrating.

Fisherman

BB

A child does not qualify to give consent to sex.

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legal action to Baptism of minor annulled?

by cyberjesus in

let's imagine that a 10 year old gets baptized.

parents split and kid never goes back to the hall again.

15 years later kid celebrates christmas and gets df since some dub saw him celebrating.

Fisherman

A person, minor or adult, does not just dive into the pool; He must qualify for baptism. Later on, after being a JW for a while, the WT will not accept a person's change of heart because the person claims and now believes that he jumped into it or was a minor at the time. Children can get expelled from school for not obeying the rules and minors can go to jail too. If a person decides that he no longer wants to be a JW, he can leave, but in the JW community that it is a sad and disgraceful thing. If anyone young or old thinks that he can un-JW himself without any consequences, he has to be kidding. AKA un-ring the bell or annul a marriage after 6 pregnancies,or be a virgin again after intercourse.

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New Field Service Format?

by jw07 in

it seems that hype is the only thing keeping jw.org alive and well these days (that and the money of suckers who continue to fall for it).. at meeting on monday, an elder announced "the faithful slave has seen it fit to change the format of our ministry in 2016, and more information will come".

i guess the desired reaction is to get jws preoccupied with what those changes could possibly be, and if it means that the end is nearer or some crap.. with that said, i've been suckered into wanting to know what these 'changes' will be.

does anyone know?

Fisherman

Maybe they're pulling the plug on door-to-door work in the developed world,

JW blood was shed for this right. Do you think WT will just do away with DD? Not in a trillion years. Regarding child abuse accusation against the WT, WT is somewhat concerned about the negative publicity but it is not a major concern because they are confident that the way they handle child abuse cases is proper and complies with Caesar. However, new precautions have been adapted to protect against lawsuit vulnerabilities.

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New Field Service Format?

by jw07 in

it seems that hype is the only thing keeping jw.org alive and well these days (that and the money of suckers who continue to fall for it).. at meeting on monday, an elder announced "the faithful slave has seen it fit to change the format of our ministry in 2016, and more information will come".

i guess the desired reaction is to get jws preoccupied with what those changes could possibly be, and if it means that the end is nearer or some crap.. with that said, i've been suckered into wanting to know what these 'changes' will be.

does anyone know?

Fisherman

I have never heard of a KH meeting on Monday since the WT WT study is Monday night and Betllies cannot make it. But if there are any changes it has nothing to do with stopping the preaching work. According to the org book, the purpose of the cong is the preaching work.

It is my opinion though that the preaching work will not continue for more than a couple of more years at the very most. I also think that 100 years of preaching just about covers it because it is senseless for people not to experience some consequences in their lifetime for rejecting it. Seems to me that everything should converge after the WT is out of Kings County and established in Warwicked if that long. Just my view. Something must happen.

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The Watchtower is not invincible

by Coded Logic in

despite claims to the contrary, there's no guarantee the watchtower will be around in a few decades time.

and it seems to me there's ever mounting evidence that the opposite may well be true.

but it's not just that recruitment is down and their defectors are up.

Fisherman

I think that the WT is invincible.

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Did you have a bad reaction to flu shot?

by compound complex in

jw
friends

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thanks for sharing.. coco.

Fisherman

Quite a few years ago the doc recommended I get one and did. A short time later wound up in the emergency room with 104 plus fever. Never again.

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City of Sodom discovered

by Saved_JW in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3270999/has-biblical-city-sodom-monstrous-site-jordan-matches-descriptions-area-destroyed-god.html

Fisherman

Even if the location is not Sodom, the researchers said the discovery is still important because it has shed light on a vast lower and upper city.

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"The likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed"

by nicolaou in

presidential hopeful ben carson of course.

this isn't another gun control debate, i just thought it might be fun to have a topic where we can dump all the hysterical quotes from the candidates.. it's a deep and plentiful mine folks!

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Fisherman

I don't know if them being armed would have actually made a difference

I 'm with cappy. All a government has to do is to pass a law making it a capital crime to own a gun. And even if you had a gun, you cannot fight the army or the police. They will get you.

How about making cars illegal? More people are killed by cars than with guns and alcohol too. Tobacco should be outlawed too. Police should go into everyone's house daily and search for anything illegal, forget about privacy and civil rights, It is about public safety. People have too much freedom anyway.