I really appreciate all the info. It is very helpful. Seems that the surgery is inevitable and there could be some repair issues after the surgery and the plumbing issues to be ready for. The possibility of repair later on and the nerve pain is something that concerns me. I also know little about the anesthesia. I do not like general. But thanks for kindly taking the time in sharing your experience with me. I am trying to make a decision and need the information. UK has cutting edge tech in medicine so if there are repair issue even there then I know it is something about this type of surgery. I need to look into how can this repair issue be minimizedd because the repair would be a bigger job and not something I want to deal with.
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An inguinal hernia.
by Fisherman inthere are a couple of schools of thought on this.
some doctors recommend postponing surgery others recommend laparascopic surgery, etc.
how about local anesthesia, complications during and after surgery and other concerns.
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An inguinal hernia.
by Fisherman inthere are a couple of schools of thought on this.
some doctors recommend postponing surgery others recommend laparascopic surgery, etc.
how about local anesthesia, complications during and after surgery and other concerns.
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An inguinal hernia.
by Fisherman inthere are a couple of schools of thought on this.
some doctors recommend postponing surgery others recommend laparascopic surgery, etc.
how about local anesthesia, complications during and after surgery and other concerns.
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There are a couple of schools of thought on this. Some doctors recommend postponing surgery others recommend laparascopic surgery, etc. How about local anesthesia, complications during and after surgery and other concerns. Any comments and suggestions on the treatments for this condition? -
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Dances With Watchtowers - Witnessing to Native Americans
by Clam ini've had a life long fascination with native americans, starting of course as a kid who watched westerns, and then learning of about their true culture and spirituality.
i have often wondered how jws in other countries, particularly the us, would interact with the indigenous people of their country.
do any americans here have any stories about witnessing to native americans?
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What is truth?
by Heisenberg inwell, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.
i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.
they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.
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Yes, I was a Witness you misunderstood.
Ok.
Fisherman, I used the word guessing because you made reference to doing a puzzle and using a pencil so that the answer could be erased which suggested that it was a guess and you were not sure.
Nothing to do with penciling in crossword puzzles.
I believe that I have made my point.
damages faith.
Seems to me that you have concluded that JW are not who they proclaim they are. Did I misunderstand? At this point is where someone decides he wants to part ways from JW, ok.
But getting back to my source post to begin with, which is a response to an article with a supporting scripture authored by WT and posted on this thread, which challenges the attitudes of people who decide for themselves what is morally right and wrong, - which is what our discussion is all about and not about whether the WT Bible interpretations are right and wrong in their Bible interpretations or whether it is wrong not to understand the Bible correctly and teach and apply a bible understanding later shown not to be true- and accuses the WT of sharing in this attitude, there is no proof the WT has ever shared in any of this attitude and your entire argument in our discussion is to show that the WT has been wrong in their teaching about "the end" and that is why the related article applies to WT -so you conclude. But i disagree and I have shown that there is nothing morally wrong with the WT believing and teaching that "the end" is coming and it is not the same as having the immoral attitude shown in the scripture from Isaiah they reference in their article. I have nothing more to say about this point.
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What is truth?
by Heisenberg inwell, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.
i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.
they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.
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not guessing.
JW were never guessing although that is what you write. A crossword puzzle is not solved guessing words either and the Bible can also be described as, in its entirety, an ironic poem. JW never wrote that they were ever inspired prophets only bible students even in their role as FDS they only claim that their understanding of the Bible is progressive ever trusting in God's Holy spirit for light. And it is in that spirit that they always taught what they believed was true at the time co-existing with the human element in all of this that God allows to be, same as when the Apostles and early Christians taught circumcision for a while and did not allow eating of owl and pork for a while until they got light on those doctrines. Nonetheless, the inspired Christian Scriptures is written in ink but record that the early Christians were not right about what they believed was true at the time and did not have a correct understanding even about the time of the end and neither did Jesus tell them what "coming quickly" meant showing up 2000 years later invisibly. I would have thought that quickly means at the very most sometime in my life time. If you need exactly what the Bible means in its entirety in one shot to have faith, ok, or maybe you are looking for excuses. I do not know. I have concluded that JW is God's org and that they have God's Holy spirit, and that God uses them in the role of a prophet sort of speak in the sense that they are doing God's work on earth today but they are not inspired prophets in the sense that their communication to others is not free from any human error and neither is their understanding of the Bible in its entirety. I suppose that the deeds of the congregations admonished by Jesus in Revelation and their beliefs based on their understanding of the Bible at that time can be shown as grounds to disqualify them as the Church had REV not also included that Jesus was part of them. The truth of God's promises recorded in the Bible has not changed and JW have done no wrong in trying to understand it and teach it and they trust in God to guide them with His Holy Spirit and not as the churches of Christendom do who resort to political devices and intellect instead of totally relying in God regardless of the outcome. Isaiah 41:26
also as a witness i understood
I thought you wrote on another thread that your father was a witness but that you were never a witness? Is it true?
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Witnesses killed my friend today.
by WasOnceBlind intoday has been a horrible day.
what began as a day of joy finding out that one of my lifelong friends had her baby, turned into a nightmare when her brother called me to let me know she had passed away after birth.
i was in shock and didn't ask how.
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It is always a tragedy when a loved one dies but especially so when the person did not have to die having accepted a BT. Kindly post the news article or any media coverage about this case as it becomes available.
With all of the JW dying left and right as a result of not accepting BT for themselves or their kinder, we are going to be seeing a lot of these cases in the news same as the media coverage for all of those alleged JW child abuse cases in the UK and in California and we are also going to be seeing a lot of these big hospitals all over the USA that offer "bloodless surgery" close down and more hospitals that offer blood open, supplanting them.
I have some friends originally from very poor countries. They told me that they have lost close relatives because checking in to a hospital they must pay for the medical supplies. The medical service is free but they either must buy the medical stuff the doctors need and bring it to the doctors or pay them to buy it, so the patient dies unless he happens to be lucky enough to be a JW that needs a BT. In such a case they will pump a gallon or 2 of blood into the JW to save his life -even if it kills him. I wonder if this is the reason for JW growth in poor countries. -But with JW fighting in all of these EU Courts of human rights (in he news,) people are just going to have to die for not having the money to pay to for medical supplies -no exceptions.
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What is truth?
by Heisenberg inwell, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.
i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.
they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.
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I viewed being a JW and what we were preaching as much more important than puzzles.-UC
UC, I see you always write in pen.
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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?
by Heisenberg inthey say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
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You can believe what the bible says all you like, prophets and all. That is not evidence for an existing god. And certainly nowhere near enough to say you have a close personal relationship with him.
OK. End of discussion.
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What is truth?
by Heisenberg inwell, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.
i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.
they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.
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They have themselves changed the Bible, deleting certain scriptures that they had previously included in their bible is just one example.
God has allowed mismatches in the various copies of the original Bible texts that have survived that are being used as the source text in Bible translations so a resulting version of the Bible from source texts is subject to what source text are used. The WT has qualified changes to the NWT by citing older source texts now being used and other reasons, but again, Bible translations rely upon various versions of ancient source texts. Knowing various languages, I will tell you that translation requires interpretation and for someone that does not know the base language and is only reading the translation is missing a lot of flavor, nonetheless, the substance is there. I am happy with the NWT. Keep in mind that you are not reading the Bible sort of speak but only an interpretation of what the Bible says from the copies of original source texts that have survived.
They hold to this view by their ever changing doctrines, both in re-interpretations and flip flopping on ideas.
No they don't. They qualify what they mean in the article that you refer to with the Scripture they cite in the article.
This is what they conclude when there is ever changing truth. They get to choose what is right and what is wrong by their own interpretations. There are many examples of them changing their minds about what is right and what is wrong, I am sure you are familiar with some of them.
No they do not. That is what you say that they conclude. JW do not decide for themselves what is right and wrong. They look to the Bible. What is true is that JW have sometimes have had to change what they believe the Bible means but they never decide for themselves what is right and wrong independent from the Bible which is what they mean in the passage you quoted above in connection with people they refer to as doing bad inspite of what the Bible has always taught is bad. Some people use JW change in what they teach as a pretext against JW so they can justify whatever they want is right and wrong . But JW have done no wrong in adjusting their beliefs in light of facts and clearer understanding. The Bible is written in the form of an ironic poem crossword puzzle and there is nothing bad or wrong in not understanding it all but trying to solve. If you have ever done a crozzword puzzle you know that you have to write with a pencil.