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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  Fisherman

  I'm sorry, you have totally contradicted yourself.

  'Without evidence you just cannot know can you?' I did not say the evidence does not exist.

  Not too long ago it became known that an innocent man went to jail for 25 years or so. There existed evidence at the time of his conviction to exonerate him only that they refused to look at it because they were convinced that the man was guilty. When they finally decided to measure the evidence 25 years later, they saw his innocence. -Not to say that the disgraced ones that suppressed the evidence continued to advocate guilt inspite of the facts. The evidence existed had they wanted to look.
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  Fisherman

  No, you cannot know,

  You can.
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  Fisherman

  I think you'll find billions of people are hanging onto an illusion....

  Without evidence you just cannot know can you? And believing that reality is an an ilusiion does not make it so because you have not measured the evidence.
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  Fisherman

  I think it's just something/someone to hang all are hopes, fears, and desires on.

  One cannot hang on to an illusion. When uncertainty comes.. one lets go. -But not if it is solid.
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  The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

  by redpilltwice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

  thank you all for the encouraging replies.

  one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

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  Fisherman

  A deleted elder does not hear any wonderful things now from fellow JW, to the contrary, now he is viewed less than respected and he feels it when any fellow JW now speak with him as a non elder. That is not wonderful at all, it is a "less than respected" aura that surrounds the ex elder even if he persists to act like an elder he looses respect from everyone. And it is something that he must bear. It ain't easy. As far as doubts from the JW expressing it to ex elders or elders is like preaching to the choir. They know.
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  Cappytan has made a video. Here is the link

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsbfnzrbiqq

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  Fisherman

  Outstanding speaking skills! -Thanks to the theo M school.
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  Fisherman

  Being angry with God or not wanting him to exist does not change anything. -But if you found evidence of God, would it not put your mind at ease to know? You would never loose your mind if reality failed you, if everything that you trusted in turned out to be a fallacy, even if doom seemed to be the only destiny, you would always have this only reality -that you know- to base your thinking on. You would realize that you are not in control. Not by your efforts, not cause and effect, is the reason things happen. Your mind could just let go. You could have peace of mind free of anxiety and leave things in God's hands -IF you found the evidence. But more than the evidence is needed. After a time one takes the evidence for granted just as a blind man that gains sight takes his vision for granted and focuses then on all of the other heartaches and natural shocks that flesh is heir to and looses sight of the prize.
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  Orthodox Jews Recognize Christianity as 'Willed By God' as Catholics Call Jewish Covenant "Irrevocable"

  by David_Jay in

  1. social
  2. current

  to date, over 50 jewish rabbis from around the world have added their names to an historical statement in response to ongoing jewish and catholic relations which have proved successful since the vatican released nostre aetate some 50 years ago...and the number is growing.. in the first days of december of 2015, about 24 orthodox rabbis signed a "statement on christianity" released by the israel's center for jewish-christian understanding and cooperation, with the vatican releasing its own document entitled "the gifts and the calling of god are irrevocable" just one week later.

  both statements recognize each other's religion as divine, from the same source, and part of the same (albeit mysterious) providential economy of redemption from god.. while not totally new, especially since the papacy of st. pope john paul ii, the vatican document is a substantial culmination of formal statements and studies that came before over the last half century.

  especially from the largely ignored but striking significance of the pontifical "the jewish people and their sacred scriptures in the christian bible," the new 2015 document is a reiteration of all that has come before in one place, resounding the previous scripture-study statement that the church holds that the jews are still the covenant people of god, that the covenant has never been revoked, and.... "in the past, the break between the jewish people and the church of christ jesus could sometimes, in certain times and places, give the impression of being complete.

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  Fisherman

  Judaism and Christianity is incompatible.

  That is correct And that is also what a Jew would say.

  "What do you think, that Judaism is built on nothing but Rashi?"

  I never said that. Judaism allows diversity in Jewish thought, for example: Satmar position on Zionism but I cannot see much deviation from Rashi except from the perspective of Moshe ben Nachman. Rashi script is one of the first things taught in Hebrew school to ALL Jewish children. I cannot see any Rabbi disagreeing with Rashi.
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  An inguinal hernia.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  there are a couple of schools of thought on this.

  some doctors recommend postponing surgery others recommend laparascopic surgery, etc.

  how about local anesthesia, complications during and after surgery and other concerns.

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  Fisherman

  Giordano, I appreciate very much the information you posted for me. It is helpful and reassuring.
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  An inguinal hernia.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  there are a couple of schools of thought on this.

  some doctors recommend postponing surgery others recommend laparascopic surgery, etc.

  how about local anesthesia, complications during and after surgery and other concerns.

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  Fisherman

  Thank you CC!!