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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

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  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Fisherman

  i was under the impression that the SC had previously interpreted clergy/penitent privilege as being an act of confession, held privately between two individuals: the penitent, and clergyman.

  "You are not reading." -Marvin Shilmer
  

  Federal Rules of Evidence 506 - Communications to Clergy

  (Federal recommended guidelines for State laws)

  (a) Definitions. As used in this rule:

  (1) A "clergyman" is a minister, priest, rabbi, or other similar functionary of a religious organization, or an individual reasonably believed so to be by the person consulting him
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Fisherman

  Please explain so that I can understand what you mean.
  
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Fisherman

  Read the first clause of the sentence you're quoting.

  Sure thing. Thanks!

  but what do you mean by

  in terms of current law, that would generally be respected and not be an issue there

  
  Please explain
  

  
  
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Fisherman

  do you think that the church should qualify for priest/penitent confidentiality privilige in child abuse cases if the confession it is kept private: no judicial comitees, no WT legal department, no bunch of elders hearing about the confession and it is strictly confidential between priest and penitent ONLY?

  In terms of current law, that would generally be respected and not be an issue there

  Seems to me that you respect (in a beat around the bush way) not reporting some child abuse.
  
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Fisherman

  Mephis, thank you for reading my post that I referred you to.
  
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Fisherman

  Simon, what do you think about the children that are harmed in child abuse cases that are not reported to the police by such church that is deemed qualified not to report it?

  Are you saying that the issue here is not that ALL churches must report child abuse, but that only those churches that do not qualify must?

  They cannot then claim clergy privilege if they don't have any.

  The WTS do not claim to have clergy or churches either but the legislation that uses those terms applies to Jews and Moslems too as well as the WT. The laws apply and provide benefits to all religions the same and the term clergy and other terms used in legislation must fit into a generic equation that applies to all religions equally or the law is unconstiutional if it only caters to a religion meeting some preferred standard. That is not my opinion, it is the opinion of US Courts.

  In the US that is.
  
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  Obey the Superior Authorities God says / God says Satan is controlling the Superior Authorities.?

  by smiddy in

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  romans 13 : 1-4 clearly states that the superior authorities are an arrangement from god , defy them and you are working against the arrangement of god at your own peril.. christians are to be obedient to the superior authorities ,"for their is no authority except by god , the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by god .therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of god ".

  matt.

  4 :8-10 shows that all the kingdoms and governments are under satan`s control , jesus never disputed that claim .

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  Fisherman

  In the Jewish religious beliefs, Satan is a good guy.

  Yes, in jewish theology, satan is only doing his job. Jews also believe that the book of job is allegorical, one of the "ketuvim" books of the Jewsih Bible (OT)
  
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Fisherman

  Mephis, did you read my post that I asked you to read?
  
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Fisherman

  I am going to assume that DD also feels that RC church priest should also be jaiiled if they do not report child abuse crimes they hear in confession. That is what I understood. If not, say so directly.
  
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Fisherman

  Mephis no matter how you try to defend what you stated, DD did not try to beat around the bush. DD answer is what I needed to hear form someone who clearly wants ALL child abuse reported not just some child abuse reported from people who do not qualify.

  Please read my article on BA post Trey Bundy 1 year of reporting.