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  ARC report released today.. and phew!

  by zeb in

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  "the response of the jehovah’switnesses and watchtower bibleand tract society of australialtd to allegations of childsexual abuse".. this report is 110 pages.

  it is imperative to look it up on the arc website each and every one of you.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/getattachment/c2d1f1f5-a1f2-4241-82fb-978d072734bd/report-of-case-study-no-29.

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  AJ1 Thanks for the links.
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  Poll - Will you accept blood?

  by OrphanCrow in

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  i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

  *oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

  i will post the new one .

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  Thank you Richard Oliver for doing your best to clarify in your posts what "Bloodless Surgery" means when hospitals refer to a medical technique that they use- as Bloodless Surgery.

  I hope that my linked videos that explain and illustrate what "Bloodless Surgery" in fact is, clears up any misconceptions or colorful views on "Bloodless Surgery" to everyone.
  

  All Bloodless Surgery means when a Hospital or doctor uses the term, is that the hospital will use as little blood as possible. And if possible zero blood, but that is not always the case.

  So, a person trying to avoid a blood transfusion as much as possible during surgery, may opt to use this technique, but doctors do not guarantee that they won't use blood. They won't use blood if they don't need to but they will if they have to, and if they have to, they will try to use as little as possible -a fraction. And regardless of whether or not blood is used in the medical procedure, hospitals still use the term "Bloodless" to describe the therapy.

  Some JW that want to avoid a blood transfusion may opt for this procedure with zero guarantee from the hospital that the hospital will not use blood, but with the assurance from the hospital that if blood is needed, the hospital will only use a fraction using this technique.
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  FISHERMAN- Your not accepting this woman's story is just another proof of insensitivity and lack of compassion that many JW's were indoctrinated with. "

  I am not saying the story isn't true but I also am not saying that the story is true. I don't know. Do you know?

  If you know, then show proof.

  If you don't know, how did you convinct ?
  
  
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  Was There ANYTHING Positive That You Experienced Because of Being a JW?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  was there anything positive about your jehovah's witness experience?.

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  view other races without prejudice

  tolerant of the gays

  patience

  analytical reading

  thinking skills

  compassionate

  empathy

  merciful
  

  making heads or tails of the Bible

  enriched my life

  made me a well rounded person and a better person.

  among other things.
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  Poll - Will you accept blood?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

  *oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

  i will post the new one .

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  https://www.google.com/amp/www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jehovahs-witnesses-are-changing-medicine/amp
  
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  I totally agree with this video about Islam

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1182232715152916/?hc_ref=newsfeedcan islam be reformed though?could it, for example, be accepted eventually that only the quran, and only the nice parts of it, need to be followed?how did judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?maybe that should be studied?.

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  The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving

  Fin, if you are saying that the Islamic faith text does not ouright say, or suggest to commit violence but is subject to interpretation then it is not the faith but personal interpretation.
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  I totally agree with this video about Islam

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1182232715152916/?hc_ref=newsfeedcan islam be reformed though?could it, for example, be accepted eventually that only the quran, and only the nice parts of it, need to be followed?how did judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?maybe that should be studied?.

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  This whole "well a Christian guy once bombed somewhere 40 years ago so therefore same as ISIS" stuff is getting old and no one buys it as a legitimate argument anymore.

  That is correct. The Christian text does not inspire violence but fanatics can come frome anywhere even from the Christians. Unless anyone can defend to the contrary, Islamic text does inspire violence; and a Christian nut case does not justify violent behaviour in the Islamic religion towards everybody else.

  I am neutral to politics, I am just looking at things from what seems to be practical from the position of not having a bridge blown up under me or going shopping and a terrorist blowing up the place and me with it, or a dirty bomb, and the inconvenience and exoense I have to put up with everywhere for the sake of national security when the common denominator is Islam and not everybody else. Everyone should be able to have the freedom to believe whatever they like but if such beliefs means violence towards everyone or anyone then that should be a disqualification for being recognized as a religion. And it is an outrage to pay for national security billions of dollars to protect religious beliefs that inspire threats to national security.

  The woman in the video did not abandon Islam she wants to reform it. We don't know her true motives but what I have seeing in the news including the case of OBL, are islamic individuals put in a position of trust or trusted and then acting treacherously in the name if Islam. I don't want to wind up dead ot maimed protecting the religion that is responsible for harming me. Again, Everyone should be free to believe but I dont want anyone being taught to believe to cause me harm with violent acts.
  
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  I totally agree with this video about Islam

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1182232715152916/?hc_ref=newsfeedcan islam be reformed though?could it, for example, be accepted eventually that only the quran, and only the nice parts of it, need to be followed?how did judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?maybe that should be studied?.

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  But it is also fair to say that non-Islamic religions although not causing violence directly, they endorse it or cause it indirectly.
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  I totally agree with this video about Islam

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1182232715152916/?hc_ref=newsfeedcan islam be reformed though?could it, for example, be accepted eventually that only the quran, and only the nice parts of it, need to be followed?how did judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?maybe that should be studied?.

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  Islam is also a political religion because Islamic government enforces Islamic laws. Jews are waiting for the Messiah to take "political" action while Islamic movements are seeking to take political action to cause change and that requires violence. The only way I see Islamics reform is if they become westernized and become less observant and see Islam in other term for practical reasons and figure that they do not need religion to control their lives, like in western countries. But that would need some catalyst.
  
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  I totally agree with this video about Islam

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. social
  2. current

  https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1182232715152916/?hc_ref=newsfeedcan islam be reformed though?could it, for example, be accepted eventually that only the quran, and only the nice parts of it, need to be followed?how did judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?maybe that should be studied?.

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  How did Judaism - the non- orthodox kind - become one of the most progressive and open of religions, considering their holy text is so violent?

  There is a textual basis for non-violence in both orthodox and non-orthodox religions. The Old Testament is not the only book Jews use, both Jewish movements use other books that interpret the OT in terms of non-violence In Islam however, there is the Koran and Hadith and violence is integrated into the religion (the more observant, the more violent) in our modern world. There are 1.6 billion Muslims There is no rank and file in Islam .How do you get all those people to reform? I can't see it being done from within in the modern world .