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  Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

  by Simon in

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  judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

  imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

  by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Why not? By whose authority

  We can debate back and forth whether or not Eden One related statements are opinions or not. I have already stated that I do not know.

  I suppose that someone with authority could decide, but not me. And would have to ask Eden one and not me; I don't know.
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  An internet forum, by definition, isn't a court room. It's an arena of opinions.

  You are talking to the wrong person.

  
  

  Why would you have to even raise that question here?

  Why not?
  
  

  Makes no sense other than stir confusion.

  How?
  
  

  
  
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  Eden One, I never said that your related posts are not opinions; I don't know one way or another but only that you say that they are opinions. The point of my post that you refer to is that I do not have any authority to determine one way or the other.
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  Labeling a statement as your "opinion" does not make it so. Courts look at whether a reasonable reader or listener could understand the statement as asserting a statement of verifiable fact. (A verifiable fact is one capable of being proven true or false.)
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  That IS exactly what I am saying.

  OK
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  Her father appears to be one appaling case of a sick abuser narcissist invested and kept in an authority role by the WT.

  What you have said above can be interpreted as or contrued to mean that WT is keeping a known child abuser in a position of authority.
  
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  consistent with thousands of other cases involving children abused in the context of the Jehovah's Witness religion and how the WT instructs the elders to deal with it

  It has already been established by Richard Oliver in another thread that in the US, WT has been complying and is complying with US law; so, consistently, how does the video show that WT is not complying with US law?

  
  

  What do you mean by covering up by the WT since WT complies with US law?

  Violating state mandatory child abuse reporting law is a crime or a violation of said statute. Can you cite one case filed against the WT in the US where wt was found guilty of violating a mandatory child abuse reporting statute as you are suggesting below that wt may be guilty of?

  
  

  serious signs of covering up by the WT

  
  

  
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  ............those who question her integrity.

  The video makes what seems to be criminal and other accusations. The accuser's integirity is not being challenged, but the truthfulnes of her accusations cannot be determined based on accusations; accusations do not legally determine or establish guilt or legal liability; that is for a Court of competent jurisdiction to decide.

  
  

  
  
  
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  ARC report released today.. and phew!

  by zeb in

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  2. child-abuse

  "the response of the jehovah’switnesses and watchtower bibleand tract society of australialtd to allegations of childsexual abuse".. this report is 110 pages.

  it is imperative to look it up on the arc website each and every one of you.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/getattachment/c2d1f1f5-a1f2-4241-82fb-978d072734bd/report-of-case-study-no-29.

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  Fisherman

  AJ1 Thanks for the links.