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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

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  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Fisherman

  So again I ask you, is the JW commentary the one that you choose to rest upon?

  That has no relevance to the topic. But if you want to know. I can PM you
  
  
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Fisherman

  dub, you can post your views on the subject. I am not going to make fun of what you say.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Fisherman

  How can you say this? Are you an authority

  Can you show that cofty is more than an advocate?

  So then, is that the commentary that you choose to rest upon?

  
  You single out wt because you are sore but in my post I referenced other commentators. But wt is an "authority" to jw. Whether or not you or I view them as such does not change that fact.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Fisherman

  Eating an unbled animal found dead was not a sin so this verse has no relevance.

  Yes it does. Deu14:21

  discussed this verse at length. You ignored my answer and now you pretend I haven't answered it. This is why I call you a coward and a liar.

  I did not and posting your trash is no licence to offend me and other posters that disagree with you.

  
  

  This verse is about an animal torn by wild beasts. It was bled. It has no relevance to our conversation.

  It does. It commands Israel to be Holy. Eating dead animals and torn ones are put in the same category and both forbidden to eat.

  I have never attempted to show that blood is not sacred to god. I have consistently said the exact opposite.

  "...insofar...." You play both sides

  
  
  
  
  
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Fisherman

  First of all, relax have a cup of tea. You keep going on a rant with me. You are only an advocate here, not an authority, and not an arbitrator. Your commentary is trash because it is only your opinion; in this sense it is trash because it does not establish anything at all except how you see things. On the other hand, wt is an authority to jw and their commentary matters, so does Rashi, Sforno, Rambam, Nachimedes. Ebn Ezra- and other to Jews. You commentary is trash - but it is your opinion and you are entitled to it; you are no authority here.

  Why is there a difference if the blood is sacred in the way JWs believe it to be?

  Why is there a difference between the blood poured out from a slaughtered animal and the blood eaten with the flesh from such animal (Scripture and verse please)

  I want to point out to you that your premise is that: "Blood .. sacred... insofar.." The burden of proof is yours not mine. You can believe your conclusions but I dont buy them. I have pointed out to you that all that you have shown in your argument is that blood from a creature that has not been slaughtered for food is different than that of animal slaughtered for food, and therefore SHOULD BE trash because you say so in your premise.

  According to this verse an Israelite farmer could have brought gallons of blood drained from live animals to the altar to atone for his sins.

  Jewish law forbade assaulting an animal for food without slaughtering it. On this basis alone it was forbidden. It would be like tearing off a limb from a live animal and offering it to God or eating it.

  So lets get to the point of all this. You argue that blood from live animals and humans should be trash because no life was taken -says you.

  Or does God forbid pumping gallons of blood into your body because blood is sacred to God and because God forbids blood to be eaten?

  How do you you know? Ask cofty?!!

  
  
  
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Fisherman

  dont have time to read trash. scriptire and verse
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Fisherman

  Every single word is solidly based on a simple reading of the text with respect for the context.

  No it aint it is trash.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Fisherman

  in traffic
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Fisherman

  how vs why One distinction about the blood from an animal found dead is that it could not be poured out. Another distinction is that if an Israelite ate a dead unbled carcass he became ceremonially unclean by doing so.

  But all of the law needs to be considered not just the verses that you like with your explanations about them.

  30 “‘But the person who does something deliberately, whether he is native-born or a foreign resident, is blaspheming Jehovah and must be cut off from among his people.

  21 “You must not eat any animal that was found dead. You may give it to the foreign resident who is inside your cities, and he may eat it, or it may be sold to a foreigner. For you are a holy people to Jehovah your God.

  31 “You should prove yourselves holy people to me, and you must not eat the flesh of anything in the field that has been torn by a wild animal. You should throw it to the dogs.

  You have not shown that blood is not sacred to God. You have only shown in your argument that blood from a creature that is not slaughtered for food should not be -based on your argument.

  Again, you conclude in your argument that blood is not sacred to God. Your argument does not show that. Lev 17 shows that an animal slaughtered for food must be drained of its blood before it can be eaten. It also shows that if an unbled animal is eaten by an Israelite, he is required to bathe ceremonially. Nothing is said about blood not being sacred to God. You conclude that in you argument. It does not say that you can take any sort of blood and eat it or do anything with it. You confuse your conclusions from what you read in Bible from what the text says. You do that in every thread even as the venetator of theory of evolution that you worship- but that is another topic. Your reconciliaton of scriptures and all the other trash that you post is only your opinion and nothing more.

  Why is cofty's commentary trash? Please answer that since I have shown that?

  
  
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Fisherman

  both know you are lying. Every single person reading this thread knows you are lying.

  cofty's assertions