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  Chapter 26 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

  by new boy in

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  we wanted sex too.

  so why did he get married?

  so they punishment you for leaving bethel and getting married?

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  Yes true. You had to have a 4-D classification

  I don't know. Every male 18+ had to register for the draft but not everyone was drafted until they hit the lottery. So, someone with with a 1A or was it 4 A classification could be accepted and work at Bethel, but should they be drafted, because they were in fact a minister serving at Bethel, got the 4D, but since that 4D was based upon their being in Bethel to begin with, leaving could invoke being drafted, I suppose, unless as you say, they continued full time service by pioneering.

  I know WT did not want JW to use Bethel as a defense if they were being drafted before going to Bethel.
  
  
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  Chapter 26 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we wanted sex too.

  so why did he get married?

  so they punishment you for leaving bethel and getting married?

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  Fisherman

  I know pioneers who got drafted while pioneering before going to Bethel and Bethel wanted nothing to do with them until they resolved their draft and then they could go to Bethel.
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  Chapter 26 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we wanted sex too.

  so why did he get married?

  so they punishment you for leaving bethel and getting married?

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  Fisherman

  NewBoy, pioneers before going to bethel got drafted and had to fight the draft board before bethel took them if they had applied to go to Bethel. Bethelites were not drafted as far as I know. I think the Bethel ID card said minister of religion. Being in Bethel also resulted in a way to beat the draft and them machines or in the Laundry were better than the jungles of Vietnam. I didn't know that a person lost their minister of religion classification if they did not pioneer after leaving bethel.
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  Breaking News - NK Missile Overflies Japan

  by cofty in

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  story breaking on reuters here.... kim jong-un seems determined to start a war.

  nk is a national cult of personality.

  hating the rest of the world is the first tenet of faith..

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  Fisherman

  -Let alone NK- I don't think that Russia nor China should be allowed to have nukes, but tipped ICBM are not cookies or toys that can be taken away from children.

  If the US goes to war with NK at this time, it will be one of the biggest blunders ever made in American history.
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  Breaking News - NK Missile Overflies Japan

  by cofty in

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  story breaking on reuters here.... kim jong-un seems determined to start a war.

  nk is a national cult of personality.

  hating the rest of the world is the first tenet of faith..

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  Fisherman

  HH, NK has NuKs and that's that, even though you think that they "should not be allowed to have" them. And the US can do nothing about it.
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  Breaking News - NK Missile Overflies Japan

  by cofty in

  1. social
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  story breaking on reuters here.... kim jong-un seems determined to start a war.

  nk is a national cult of personality.

  hating the rest of the world is the first tenet of faith..

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  Fisherman

  Chess. What move should the US make?

  China and NK are consorts. US and China are business partners but enemies, rivals. Sanctions by China on NK are a show and China is forced to do it but they work it out. If China did not want NK to do what they are doing, China would not have to use sanctions. It was China who gave NK the tech to use against the US.

  Read Morpheus posts - he convinced me.
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  Breaking News - NK Missile Overflies Japan

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  story breaking on reuters here.... kim jong-un seems determined to start a war.

  nk is a national cult of personality.

  hating the rest of the world is the first tenet of faith..

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  Fisherman

  Morpheus, I knew that. You posted about it on another thread but I don't think that HH understands the chessboard. I also don't believe that Trump is learning about China. He knew.

  News:

  https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/29/asia/north-korea-missile-launch-guam-threat/index.html

  "And therefore those skilled in the art of war, bring the enemy into the battlefield instead of being brought there by him." -Sun Tzu, The art of war
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  Breaking News - NK Missile Overflies Japan

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  story breaking on reuters here.... kim jong-un seems determined to start a war.

  nk is a national cult of personality.

  hating the rest of the world is the first tenet of faith..

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  Fisherman

  "China has more leverage over North Korea than any other nation, but as Trump is learning, China has reasons to keep Kim in power and use him as a counterweight to America’s presence in South Korea. Trump can still lean harder on China and threaten sanctions there, but China is a huge U.S. trading partner and what hurts China would hurt American interests, too." -Yahoo Finance

  
  
  
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  Breaking News - NK Missile Overflies Japan

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  story breaking on reuters here.... kim jong-un seems determined to start a war.

  nk is a national cult of personality.

  hating the rest of the world is the first tenet of faith..

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  Fisherman

  HH, you are looking at things superficially. What Kennedian mighty act will the US perform to not allow NK to shoot their missiles over people's houses -except to compromise same as Kennedy did? But that's all the US can do. KJU is no Saddam Hussein.

  Morpheus pointed out that China is insidiously backing NK because it was China that gave NK the technology to begin with knowing that NK would use it against the US. Also, China has insinuated with few words that it would not allow the NK regime to collapse. Also, you are dreaming if you believe that the US will prevent NK to keep their toys. NK will keep them and promise to be nice.

  Cofty pointed out that in the past when the US pushed NK too far, China got involved.

  On the other hand, as Simon said, anything can happen.
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  Breaking News - NK Missile Overflies Japan

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  story breaking on reuters here.... kim jong-un seems determined to start a war.

  nk is a national cult of personality.

  hating the rest of the world is the first tenet of faith..

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  Fisherman

  Hothabanero: During the Cuban missive crisis, the news and all the propaganda made out Kennedy and the US to be so mighty by not allowing FC to have missiles. But secretly-or not so public-the US had to vow to the USSR never to invade Cuba and to downsize or remove (don't remember which) missiles in Turkey. But in the media, Russia was made to seem they backed away. - Some mightiness abandoning then Cubans and also weakening US position in Turke!