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Does Morality Exist?
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

some people don't.. does morality exist?

if so, prove it..
Fisherman

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Does Morality Exist?
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

some people don't.. does morality exist?

if so, prove it..
Fisherman

If morality exists, I want to see proof.
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Does Morality Exist?
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

some people don't.. does morality exist?

if so, prove it..
Fisherman

Morality is just the name we give to our concerns about how our actions affect other conscious beings. So yes of course it exists.
We would still be concerned about the implications of our actions on the well-being of other creatures.
Is killing other creatures,for example, for self preservation or for the preservation of our loved ones the moral thing to do? And I don't only mean self defense.
I am only probing Cofty, and I don't have a handle on this topic and not trying to prove you wrong. Post away. I read and think about what is posted. If I don't grasp, explain away.
Morality is not arbitrary, neither is it simply a social construct.
What is it then or give a solid example. All you have said that it is a feeling about our actions as they affect the well being of others. Concern is subjective. You are concerned about how pollution affects fish and me too but I am also concerned about the ocean - not having trash floating around regardless of the fish. Some people won't eat fish or other creatures for moral reasons, others don't care. What concerns are you talking about and based on what?
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Does Morality Exist?
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

some people don't.. does morality exist?

if so, prove it..
Fisherman

Morality is a social construct. - Redvip200
Not in the US for example -Laws are social constructs, not morality.
Convictions of theft, rape and murder are based on laws not morality. Should it be theft, rape and murder to conquer another Nation for self preservation and to prosper. Well being for who?
What makes killing immoral is not the action but the reason behind it. Same as taking something that belongs to somebody else not automatically immoral.
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Does Morality Exist?
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

some people don't.. does morality exist?

if so, prove it..
Fisherman

my post are queued and pop up at different times.
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Does Morality Exist?
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

some people don't.. does morality exist?

if so, prove it..
Fisherman

theft rape and murder as moral virtues
That is an adjudication
Have you lost interest in it already?
I am very interested. I read everything posted. Also, my posts are being queued sometimes.
Who says that killing, taking property that is not yours and sexual conduct is moral or not moral?
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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube
by mrmagic in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!
Fisherman

They have NOT come from the WTS but rather (at least originally) from ELDERS (or other members of the congregation) to whom the letters were addressed, who have then made them public, as is their right, even though instructed not to do so.
If a letter is not addressed to Elder Judas Iscariot or to Joe Pub about non confidential stuff but is addressed to a WT agent acting in his official capacity or to The Body of Elders, the letter and the information the letter contains may be considered to be wt property and it may not automatically be a person's right to make such letter public. Another word of caution, intellectual property must not have to be copyrighted to be protected.
Suppose, a wt letter is deemed to be wt property and not the property of an elder or of another person that took the letter, how does this affect a third party that received the information and published it without the permission of the owner? It depends on the substance of the letter and other variables but possession of information that is not yours does not automatically give you the right to publish such information even if the information is not copyrighted. ( wt letters may or may not be.)
A congregant may not automatically have the right to publish a letter sent to The Congregation.
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Does Morality Exist?
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

some people don't.. does morality exist?

if so, prove it..
Fisherman

Justice is sometimes moral, and sometimes it's not. It depends on the situation and the corresponding circumstances. When it's not, mercy is, and mercy is the suspension of justice.
Says who?
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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube
by mrmagic in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!
Fisherman

The letter is addressed to him so therefore becomes HIS property, not mine. What he does with it afterwards is entirely up to him,
That is true but not always. There is a flaw in your statement. Let me illustrate. I have confidentiality agreements with my workers. I send them letters all of the time containing protected information. It is NOT entirely up to them to publish the letters I send them about company matters.
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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube
by mrmagic in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!
Fisherman

Actually, they do. Mike and Kim bring to light plenty of issues that they simply ignore. Instead of answering these issues, they play the legal game.
Tell it to the judge.
You do the same thing by ignoring the motives of the society and playing the legal game.
Legal proceedings is no game. Your theory of wt moral motives is no excuse to break the law. Your morality does not trump over the law. If you like it and believe it is better go eat a bolony sandwich.
Who's morality is better? Mine or WT? Let me humbly submit that it is mine.
you can believe that if you like but if KM are breaking the law the Courts will stop them.