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  U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

  by BluesBrother in

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  while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

  - patient information" .

  now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

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  This is therefore not a case of Lee Elder's interpretation vs. that of JW leaders and policy makers,

  "Jehovah’s Witnesses hold that accepting whole blood or any of those four primary components violates God’s law. " WT 2004 QFR
  
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  U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
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  while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

  - patient information" .

  now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

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  FM, I don't think Lee. is ignoring the base scriptural reference to blood. -K99

  My point to LE is that JW leadership decides doctrinal matters for JW and JW have confidence and faith in the GB but there are those as yourself who are not JW that challenge JW leadership on doctrine and other grounds as you explain in your post, and you can do that and you are welcome to feel the way you do and others are welcome to join you if they wish, they are free to do so, but, the direction coming from the FDS at this time on blood is what it is.
  
  
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  U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

  - patient information" .

  now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

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  context is very clear

  Well, that's what you think. JW leadership says different.
  
  
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  Does Morality Exist?

  by Fisherman in

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  some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

  some people don't.. does morality exist?

  if so, prove it..

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  TD, does it taste the same to you if life is a gift from God or a device?
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  U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

  - patient information" .

  now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

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  Fisherman

  Where in the Bible does it explain which parts of blood are OK and which parts are not ?

  Lee, the Bible says to "keep abstaining from blood" -that command has to be considered. But what does that mean to 'keep abstaining from blood' and who decides it, each individual? You? JW are taught to believe that GB decides. Deciding about blood fractions is only part of the same decision.
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  Paradise? Was it?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  paradisewas it really paradise to be in paradise?adam and eve never were held by a mother, never cuddled and sung to with a lullaby nor nursed or coddled with tenderness or any human familial embrace.

  the first humans (adam and eve) never learned to toddle surrounded by brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles and grandparents cheering them on.

  the entire experience of childhood was excised surgically like a trauma patient awakening from an accident with amnesia.adam and eve were never in a neighborhood with other kids forming friendship bonds for life and exchanging dreams and hopes for a future they were building in their community.

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  Terry, what you said happened to you in prison is an outrage. However, many faithful servants of God as yourself, suffered at the hands of wicked men, from Abel to Zechariah and after that. Take Isaiah who was beheaded by King Mannaseh, Job, Jesus, Peter, Paul, brother in Hermany who was beheaded, brother King who was jailed and tortured for 40 years in a Chinese jail, JW who get injured while in fs....

  I went up to a blind man one time and asked him how he felt about God -him being blind and all- I expected that he would be angry or say that God did not exist but instead he said: " Oh, no, no, no, God helps me."
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  U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

  - patient information" .

  now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

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  There is no logical reason for the Watchtower's convoluted policy beyond it being an "organizational policy".

  There is a Biblical basis that must be considered, and to JW, WT says what the Bible says - not you.

  
  
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  Does Morality Exist?

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

  some people don't.. does morality exist?

  if so, prove it..

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  TD: There is no distinction in the taste of a banana whether someone gave one to you as a gift or not -if taste is all that matters.

  The concern we feel for others, whether it is a gift from God or a device that evolved, produces the same results -well-being.
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  Does Morality Exist?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

  some people don't.. does morality exist?

  if so, prove it..

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  At the end of the day, is the distinction really that important? TD

  If that is all that matters.

  Is it important that wolves feel concern as they cooperate during the hunt as long as they all enjoy the food and survive as a species?

  Does it matter at the end of the day whether or not the sun feels right or wrong as long as it does what it is supposed to do?

  Does it matter whether you are the sun, a wolf or a human.

  Does it matter whether you exist or not?

  It is important to an individual not feel pain. It is important to an individual to feel satisfaction. That is what is important to each person.

  If the human species did not exist, would morality and things like justice exist?


  Is it important to a person whether or not the world exists after the person is dead?

  
  
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  U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

  - patient information" .

  now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

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  Ws cite selected reports that caution against blood transfusions and then say, but 'that's not the reason we refuse them', when challenged on the citation or other research about the safety of BT.

  Because it is not. Even if it was possible to sterilize blood and offer it to JW, JW would still not be able to accept.

  Safe or infected, it's all the same to JW. Prior to the AIDS epidemic, blood was deemed to be safe too, in fact, that is why it was used to transfuse people with it. There is good reason to believe that blood is safe too at this time based upon belief in the statistics,and reasons given and there is no reason to doubt the evidence given. On the other hand, a person that received a BT is not out of the woods yet. He just does not know if the blood that was given to him was safe.Only time will tell. In the meantime, a lot of people worry and do not have peace of mind.