Posts by Fisherman

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How Many Witnesses Would Really Take Blood?

by minimus in

jw
friends

up until the very end, my mother refused blood.

it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!

i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.

Fisherman

Where you seem unable to grasp the point is that even taking the above into account, should the GB change their mind on the interpretation of the Bible command then the conscience and decision tree of an individual Witness will change to match the will of the GB.

JW know that wt doctrine has changed and can change but also believe that gb is the FDS and as such GB decide doctrine and lead JW and JW follow.

If a JW believes that the gb are only a bunch of men dictating policy as you say, then why should he continue to be a JW?

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U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

by BluesBrother in

while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

- patient information" .

now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

Fact: Medical authorities and government know that wt decides doctrine on blood not individual JW. What in the world do they need to learn from you about that? You are entitled to believe your commentary about "control", etc., but that is all it is and it is also a different subject. WT leaders also keep abstaining from blood. What are you directing the GB to do?

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How Many Witnesses Would Really Take Blood?

by minimus in

jw
friends

up until the very end, my mother refused blood.

it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!

i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.

Fisherman

K99, you are mistaken to proclaim your commentary as reality. Why are you willfully misunderstanding what I post ?

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The Second Coming of Christ

by maccauk in

the second coming of christ was in the 1st century at the destruction of jerusalem the temple the law and the old covenants.

so the new eternal covenant came into force in which people of every tribe tongue and nation would enter into.

the new jerusalem not built by human hands nor with bricks and mortar its spiritual cannot be seen but people will stream to it the sin issue is done there is no more judgment for those in christ .

Fisherman

The second coming of Christ was in the 1st century at the destruction of Jerusalem.

Wow, the separation of the sheep and the goats is in the past! Also, the great crowd and the Millenium is in the past! - 2000 years ago just about.

"Look the tent of God is with mankind.. wipe every tear from their eye and death will be no more..." All in the past.

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How Many Witnesses Would Really Take Blood?

by minimus in

jw
friends

up until the very end, my mother refused blood.

it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!

i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.

Fisherman

As has been pointed out in another thread the whole blood situation is far more about organisation policy management than a truly theological position based on honest and conscience driven interpretation.

It was pointed out in another thread that the base scripture enjoining Christians to 'keep abstaining from blood' needs to be considered. --Call it what you like.

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How Many Witnesses Would Really Take Blood?

by minimus in

jw
friends

up until the very end, my mother refused blood.

it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!

i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.

Fisherman

I wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking. Would JWs of today take the blood or give it to a loved one in a medical emergency?

JW have spent years in concentration camps and then commit immorality. Most JW that get df is for immortality. Even those JW that succumb to sexual immorality would not have accepted a BT. The great majority of JW would face death instead of a BT. Giving blood to a loved one is a different question.

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How Many Witnesses Would Really Take Blood?

by minimus in

jw
friends

up until the very end, my mother refused blood.

it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!

i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.

Fisherman

2 JW's take blood in the last 3 months. It's supposed to be confidential, so the elders never find out.

They are not JW. A JW could cave in out of fear and not wanting to die though and confess.

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Favorite Quotations from Movies

by compound complex in

"the way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end.

now you will have peace for eternity.

" -- maleva, the wolf man.

Fisherman

'What we've got here is failure to communicate' ---Cool hand Luke

'You see these people over here?' 'These are the real ones; these are real people.' -One flew over the Cukoos Nest.

'People with ropes around their necks don't always hang.' The Good the bad and the ugly.

'I don't want you living with roaches.' -Mohamed Ali

'You are dispicable!' -- Daffy Duck

(The entire script of Once Upon a Time in the West is a Masterpiece.) ".... The future don't matter to us, nothing matters now, not the money not the land, not the woman, cause I came here to see you.." --Once Upon a time in the West

'But I am a superstitious man, and if my son Michael was to be hit by lightning, I would hold some of the people in this room responsible -and that I cannot forgive.' -The Godfather

'Not everything is what it seems' - Karate Kid

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Barred from entering kh

by poopie in

jw
friends

a friend of mine called last night we will call him tom.

he is df now for 2 yrs for associating with a a df person non relative.

anyway he arrived at the meeting this week and was informed by 3 elders that he was no longer welcomed at the hall.apparently he was caught greeting someone in the parking lot after meeting.

Fisherman

AM You don't know what you are talking about. The KH is not a public place. Meetings at a KH are not public. Neither does calling them public meetings held there make them such. The public has not right to be there. People of the general public including df are there by invitation. Such invitation can be revoked at anytime. The mumbo jumbo you posted about corporate "bylaws"does not give someone DF the right to be at a KH meeting.

@poopieEveryone can have thete say in court

But sometimes you pay a very expensive price -more than you figured it would cost you.

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Barred from entering kh

by poopie in

jw
friends

a friend of mine called last night we will call him tom.

he is df now for 2 yrs for associating with a a df person non relative.

anyway he arrived at the meeting this week and was informed by 3 elders that he was no longer welcomed at the hall.apparently he was caught greeting someone in the parking lot after meeting.

Fisherman

You must give the court a reason why someone from the public is barred from a public place

Depends on local laws but in the US everyone is invited to attend a public meeting in a KH. The invitation to attend a KH is a license that can be revoked. A KH is a private place not public. When a person's invitation is revoked such person has no right to be there and can be arrested for trespassing. If such person claims that he was being treated in violation of the law, the burden of proof is on the person making the accusation, but that is another matter all together.