egocentric approach to interpretation leads.
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How does that establish that Rome is the Rev HOB or debunk WT interpretation that it is WEFR?
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So does Star Trek. It's still not actually a prophecy about the future.
The subject does not argue the inspired validity of Rev but only that the related verses are fulfilled in the future.
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because it made sense to the people at the time
But the Bible writers did not write their thoughts according to the premise that the Bible is inspired so they didn’t have to understand what they wrote or could have been mistaken about what they intended to mean. So, in-spite of their beliefs at the time as to the identity of Babylon the Great juxtaposition the mistaken beliefs about the significance of the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” which Jesus clarified later on, the prophetic identity of Babylon the Great may not be Rome. And of course, there is an argument explaining that.
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No. Revelation was about cryptic references to events that affected early Christians under the Roman empire during the first and early second centuries. Relevance to anything now, or to the future, is exactly zero.
I don’t think so because the book of Rev actually does speak about the future, for example the 1000 year reign of Christ and after that, the final test for humanity after Satan is let loose, etc.
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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis
by mikeflood indon't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....
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American has never had a war INSIDE THE AMERICAN COUNTRY.
No country with nukes nowdays will tolerate any war inside their country.
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Does anyone know why cart witnessing is not allowed at the moment??
by raymond frantz inconsidering it is contacted in the open and i see other people engaging outdoors on other sales activities why is cart witnessing still not allowed?
are there any updates as regards returning to this activity any time soon ?.
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reason is covid and liability.
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Can Jehovah's Witnesses explain the overlapping generation?
by pistolpete ini found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.
how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.
i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.
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It is valid. But not liked. It takes the tension and focus and anticipation away from length of generation part of the prophecy. It is disappointing for older ones and for ones waiting for immediate pending relief but to new ones coming in and young ones that are into being involved, the explanation is not unacceptable or out of the ordinary.
Sounds more like an excuse to keep extending. Also, like when one thought he completed a task and and an inspector points reasons needed to keep working and go back to correct. That is what it feels like to people but nevertheless it is the only valid explanation given that the great tribulation will come using the year 1914 as a limit to the countdown. “Heaven and earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.” So it doesn’t depend on whether meaning makes sense but on the certainty of the prophecy—again based on circa 1914 generation being “the time of the end.”
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Another example of how Watchtower are rewriting their own history.
by skin infrom today's daily wt text.. friday, december 31 2021.let your kingdom come.
let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.—matt.
6:10. christendom generally does not teach the scriptural truth that one day obedient humans will live forever on earth.
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m, where does it say that?
So, elite humanity goes to heaven, bad guys go to the other place, universe is just there and earth is inhabited by plants and animals. No more humans?
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Another example of how Watchtower are rewriting their own history.
by skin infrom today's daily wt text.. friday, december 31 2021.let your kingdom come.
let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.—matt.
6:10. christendom generally does not teach the scriptural truth that one day obedient humans will live forever on earth.
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millions will never die. 1918-1925.
They are all dead more or less.
But the Bible says that at some point in time people will survive a destruction and live forever. Hopefully this is true and will happen to us.
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God of WT - a kindly killer?
by Smiles inthis wt doctrine includes the wrathful mass execution of individual children, babies and disabled belonging to the billions of non-jws... extremist?
"during the war of armageddon, jehovah will execute people, not in a cold, clinical manner, but in a “great rage.” (read ezekiel 38:18.
) he will direct the explosive force of his anger, not against one army or one nation, but against countless individuals living across the globe.
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mass execution of individual children, babies and disabled
Vengeance. Don’t touch God’s friends.
So Jehovah sent a plague upon Israel that morning, and it lasted for three days. A total of 70,000 people died
Many people die resulting from the errors of their leaders. If David cares for his people, he strictly needs to follow God’s direction.