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  The Genesis 3:15 woman.

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  genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

  although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

  we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

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  Looks like Paul is creating a small contradiction with his 'seed' references.

  Throw God’s word out then but the scripture cannot be invalidated.
  
  
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  The Genesis 3:15 woman.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

  although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

  we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

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  And to seeds,” as in the case of many such, [i.e. 144,000] but as in the case of one: “And to your seed,” who is Christ.”

  Paul explains:

  16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. It says, not: “And to seeds,” as in the case of many such, but as in the case of one: “And to your seed,” who is Christ.

  26 YOU are all, in fact, sons of God through YOUR faith in Christ Jesus.

  29 Moreover, if YOU belong to Christ, YOU are really Abraham’s seed, heirs with reference to a promise.

  Could the 'woman' picture the entity of Christianity?

  “The Jerusalem above is free and she is our mother.”
  
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

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  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  I apologize for some remarks I made in two of my recent posts

  I don’t take offense. Enjoy your sincere expressions.
  
  
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

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  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  intentionally mislead the reader to erroneously conclude God and Christ are the same.

  I was referring to concluding that Jesus is Michael. Who else has the power and authority to evict Satan? The scriptures clearly distinguish between God and Jesus there is not mistake about it. God is God although Jesus may be given power of attorney to act as God’s proxy also such as Moses in roles. God has no role except that he can become whatever he likes if you consider that role playing.

  Michael, one of the foremost princes,

  You can read that the way you do but in harmony with all the other scriptures, the verse is not implying that there are many archangels. It is only another example of poetic language humbly describing Michael’s role in comparison to other angels not belittling them. Any angel can act as a prince for a particular purpose let’s say in some role on earth compared. to humans. Such angel can be considered a prince. Another way of looking at it is that Michael like other high ranking angels is a prince (but as God’s only begotten he is archangel.) But WT has made it clear that the belief that Jesus is Michael is a conclusion and not directly stated in God’s word. But. there is no other conclusion because Michael defeats and evicts Satan and only Jesus can do that.
  
  
  
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  The Genesis 3:15 woman.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

  although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

  we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

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  Genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed. Although the Bible reveals that the woman’s seed is Jesus and Christians that go to heaven with Christ, it does not identify the woman directly. Who is she? We at JW believe that the woman is symbolic. Paul referred to her as “our mother” in Galatians 4:26.
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  Hand waving wont work here Fisherman

  Another fallacy.

  Death is the opposite of life. That is why a resurrection is needed such as in Lazarus and others.

  The difference with Jesus is that he is the first human to be resurrected to a Spirit creature to go to heavenly life.
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  Fisherman, you have been indoctrinated

  logical fallacy irrelevant. WT commentary stands.
  
  
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  and so I don't consider the viewpoint conclusive

  Although I agree, Are the scriptures intentionally misleading the reader to conclude erroneously?
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  die and resurrect himself after three days....and then did it.

  Then he wasn’t dead. But he was dead and the Bible says that God resurrected Jesus from the dead. So what did Jesus mean since obviously dead killed Jesus could not resurrect himself? WT explains that Jesus was using a literary device illustrating faith, for example “ Your faith has made you well.” Poetic language illustrating Jesus’s faith.
  
  
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  So, again. Only Jesus has the power and authority to kick Satan out of heaven.