“babies are little enemies of God"If you were being subjugated and enslaved by tyrants, such tyrants would be your enemies and their children who would grow up to oppress you in your old age and their children therefore would also be your enemies. However, if your oppressors die with no one to suckseed them, you would have relief. Or your oppressors can feed your misery to their babies so they can grow strong and oppress ( for lack of a harsher word) you and your loved ones.
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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?
by Vanderhoven7 inatheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?
by Vanderhoven7 inatheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
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sounds like wt propaganda
I don’t think so. The JW have done a lot of work interpreting the Bible and publishing the Bible and wt commentary.
Gehennah was a physical garbage dump. And Jesus talked about Jehovah casting souls not meriting a resurrection into Gehennah. Since the Bible assures the resurrection of the unrighteous, those cast into gehennah must not be worth saving—to God. WT has nothing to do with it.
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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?
by Vanderhoven7 init seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.
who is the way, the truth and the life?
(john 14:6).
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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?
This is not a proper question because Jesus is God’s agent The question implies 2 separate issues. However, there is one subject only, Jehovah’s kingdom by means of his appointed king, Jesus the Messianic king of Jehovah’s kingdom. Like asking what name does the book of the kings of Israel emphasize and while it is true that Bible stories are about a particular Bible character it is fallacy and deceptive logic to suggest that it is either the Bible character or Jehovah. While we cherish and appreciate the gift, the giver of salvation and relief is Jehovah.
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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?
by Vanderhoven7 inatheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
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Is non existence really punishment
An atheist getting the death penalty after seeing proof that God is real can believe whatever he likes.
Certainly a person cannot be justly sentenced to eternal death without knowing why. Therefore, somehow God must communicate with such a person at some point before his doom. Do you think walking the green mile is punishment really, knowing yiu have no hope in all eternity? The soul of suck person is garbage—to God. Sounds like punishment to me.
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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?
by Vanderhoven7 inatheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
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For clarification WT does not teach eternal torment but eternal non existence as punishment without any hope of a resurrection: God destroys the soul of an individual as if by fire symbolized by Gehenah.
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My Father's Last Words
by Terry infather's last words.
in 1972, i was 25 years old following a strong impulse carrying me 1,500 miles.. i intended to find him - my dad.
he’d left when i was about half a year old.. his home in detroit, michigan had been the first house i lived in at age zero.. i knocked on his door and he answered.
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Terry,
It is understandable why your father fled from your mother but it is inexcusable to abandon you. That is a cowardly act.
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ANTI-DEPRESSANT medication for the last 60 years now proved to be based on poorly supported false theory
by Terry in"the chemical imbalance theory of depression is still put forward by professionals, and the serotonin theory, in particular, has formed the basis of a considerable research effort over the last few decades.
the general public widely believes that depression has been convincingly demonstrated to be the result of serotonin or other chemical abnormalities, and this belief shapes how people understand their moods, leading to a pessimistic outlook on the outcome of depression and negative expectancies about the possibility of self-regulation of mood""read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m92v7hb0njm2mnvnu6nv0kpnkzloe-_k4crh_wphpti/edit?usp=sharing.
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Terry, were you married to all 4 at the same time? If they were all JW females, I hear you. According to the Bible, an overseer must be husband to one wife. Why put that in the Bible unless non overseers were married to multiple wives it seems.
By therapist, I don’t mean necessarily the professionals you mentioned although it could be.
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Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?
by Vanderhoven7 inatheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
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WT is a commentary of the Bible. According to the Bible God, has appointed Jesus as judge and chief executioner of individuals.
”Now this is the basis for judgment, light has come into the world but men have loved darkness.”
Jesus’s description of Gehenah sounds very eternal where not the person’s body but the person in toasted.
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Do you believe that this life is all there is
by Fisherman inthe bible records resurrections and there is orher evidence besides that gives hope.
what do you think, is there enough evidence to believe in another life?.
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Luke 20:37,38 (nwt-E) — But that the dead are raised up, even Moses made known in the account about the thornbush, when he calls Jehovah ‘the God of Abraham and God of Isaac and God of Jacob.’ 38 HE is a God, not of the dead, but of the living, for they are all living to him.”
This also proves that Jesus is not God.
But the Bible clearly and unambiguously teaches a resurrection. —Were all those people lying and is the Bible a pack of lies?
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ANTI-DEPRESSANT medication for the last 60 years now proved to be based on poorly supported false theory
by Terry in"the chemical imbalance theory of depression is still put forward by professionals, and the serotonin theory, in particular, has formed the basis of a considerable research effort over the last few decades.
the general public widely believes that depression has been convincingly demonstrated to be the result of serotonin or other chemical abnormalities, and this belief shapes how people understand their moods, leading to a pessimistic outlook on the outcome of depression and negative expectancies about the possibility of self-regulation of mood""read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m92v7hb0njm2mnvnu6nv0kpnkzloe-_k4crh_wphpti/edit?usp=sharing.
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criticised ritalin use. Was he right?
Ritalin has been used to treat depression in adults. It is not the first choice drug to treat depression . It stimulates the cns in a way that causes euphoria. It also stimulates sexual desire very much intensifying pleasure but those are the unpleasant side effects of the drug. A doctor may try it on his patient to treat his depression when trying to find something that works when other meds don't seem to specially work for him. This information is not from the PDR or medical diagnosis and treatment or from a pharmacology text book. It is what patients experience using the drug and report to their doctor.