atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
their worms will not die, and the fire that burns them will never be quenched
Both fire and worm are physical substances that exist in the universe whereas spirit creatures such as angels exist in another realm. Living organisms like worms are not spirit creatures but depend on the physical universe to live. Fire needs oxygen and fuel. Therefore, the verse is symbolic.
atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
the Father, creator can hardly be oppressed by anyone
Can’t you see the point? Enemies of God’s people are God’s enemies.
it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.
who is the way, the truth and the life?
(john 14:6).
compared to what the Father can accomplish through his Son.
“Although I may be the Christ, the Messiah, the son of the living God
—but—Jehovah is salvation, salvation comes from Jehovah.” That’s what is being emphasized here.
Jesus was Jehovah by power of attorney, by proxy. ( “Blessed is he who comes in Jehovah’s name.”) “I have made your name known.”
So, it is not either Jesus or Jehovah. The question is invalid.
it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.
who is the way, the truth and the life?
(john 14:6).
full name
Funny because Yehoshua (Jesus) means Jehovah is salvation and not the man Jesus is salvation so the name Jesus comes from Jehovah. Jesus’ name is a deputy name. The great name is Jehovah.
In other words when addressing the Christ by his name: “Good day Jehovah is salvation !” “Is your name Jehovah is salvation?”
atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
“babies are little enemies of God"If you were being subjugated and enslaved by tyrants, such tyrants would be your enemies and their children who would grow up to oppress you in your old age and their children therefore would also be your enemies. However, if your oppressors die with no one to suckseed them, you would have relief. Or your oppressors can feed your misery to their babies so they can grow strong and oppress ( for lack of a harsher word) you and your loved ones.
atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
sounds like wt propaganda
I don’t think so. The JW have done a lot of work interpreting the Bible and publishing the Bible and wt commentary.
Gehennah was a physical garbage dump. And Jesus talked about Jehovah casting souls not meriting a resurrection into Gehennah. Since the Bible assures the resurrection of the unrighteous, those cast into gehennah must not be worth saving—to God. WT has nothing to do with it.
it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.
who is the way, the truth and the life?
(john 14:6).
What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?
This is not a proper question because Jesus is God’s agent The question implies 2 separate issues. However, there is one subject only, Jehovah’s kingdom by means of his appointed king, Jesus the Messianic king of Jehovah’s kingdom. Like asking what name does the book of the kings of Israel emphasize and while it is true that Bible stories are about a particular Bible character it is fallacy and deceptive logic to suggest that it is either the Bible character or Jehovah. While we cherish and appreciate the gift, the giver of salvation and relief is Jehovah.
atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
Is non existence really punishment
An atheist getting the death penalty after seeing proof that God is real can believe whatever he likes.
Certainly a person cannot be justly sentenced to eternal death without knowing why. Therefore, somehow God must communicate with such a person at some point before his doom. Do you think walking the green mile is punishment really, knowing yiu have no hope in all eternity? The soul of suck person is garbage—to God. Sounds like punishment to me.
atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.
but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?
in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.
For clarification WT does not teach eternal torment but eternal non existence as punishment without any hope of a resurrection: God destroys the soul of an individual as if by fire symbolized by Gehenah.
father's last words.
in 1972, i was 25 years old following a strong impulse carrying me 1,500 miles.. i intended to find him - my dad.
he’d left when i was about half a year old.. his home in detroit, michigan had been the first house i lived in at age zero.. i knocked on his door and he answered.
Terry,
It is understandable why your father fled from your mother but it is inexcusable to abandon you. That is a cowardly act.
