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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
Fisherman

Hi Van,
I cited the verses instead of quoting them. I also explained and responded to your argument.
WT never teaches that salvation can be earned by works of “theocratic services”. Such works are like sacrifices to God like that of the early christians helping people with the good news and knowledge of the Messianic kingdom but such works do not replace obedience and the practice of love (although theocratic service and works is evidence of love). —The verses in Mark I cited explain the standard doe salvation and christian living is an application of the that standard to the higher degree that Jesus enjoined on christians on the sermon on the mount. We @ JW practice christianity by our interpretation of Bible principles and also by our theocratic works. But ultimately salvation is a free gift of God that we can never merit.
“Salvation we OWE to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
Fisherman

Van all you are doing is reasserting your one sided view without considering the verses referenced in my posts.
I already responded to your belief that once you are saved that you cannot lose that salvation or need to do anything for it.— Unless you turn to doing evil which your explanation would be not being saved to begin with. I am not going to repeat my same argument again or flood this post by quoting the entire Bible here.
Kindly,F
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
Fisherman

Van,
One or 2 verses don’t invalidate the rest of the Bible.
While it is clear that salvation extrinsically cannot be earned or bought, the Bible also says that not everyone will be saved and that effort and obedience is still required— but even with all that work, salvation is still a gift that no person merits.
An example of vision to describe an object is the six blind men and the elephant each focusing on only one aspect of the subject. Another example is looking only at one side of a coin while a coin is 3 dimensional. One needs to to view subjects not only in perspective but to see top, bottom and sides to really define and understand a subject and not focus on one or two scriptures and totally not look at and factor in the rest of the Bible.
Respectfully, F.
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
Fisherman

no matter how hard they work for the “organisation”
You didn't read the verses I referenced.

you can never be sure.
That is what faith is all about: The ransom will cover our sins. —But Satan CAN also overreach us as he did with Judas so at least some effort is required.
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The day the music died.
by Fisherman in
1. social
2. entertainment
is there any new music or singers whatsoever nowadays or just junk?

and how about movies, besides documentaries is there anything at all, any movie at all, any new actor at all that that has any real worth to watch and enjoy or is it all a boring waste of time.

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Fisherman

I went to a small mall and parked my car next to a cell phone store. And they were blasting this “ music “ non stop. It was so disturbing and sickening. I think it called Spanish “ragiton”. Got to the point of being so annoyed listening to that sickening noise, I just had to run out of there for relief and peace if mind. How in the world can people get any pleasure from something that causes disturbance but some people do enjoy harm so that explains it.
Dont get me wrong, I enjoy listening to MUSIC from other countries too.
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
Fisherman

Are you saved?
Ozzie, I think you are asking is what I believe is the standard for “salvation.”
Ultimately, God is the final judge.—Luke 13:23-30
The standard is Mark 12:33
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
Fisherman

who are not in the New Covenant, not entitled to partake of the emblems of Christ's death, not born of the Spirit and bereft of a heavenly hope?
Compare Rev 5:10 with Luke 12:32.
Obviously heaven will be ruling over christians on earth since christ is the only way and the only salvation.
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
Fisherman

Who says there are only 144 000 places•
Rev 14:3 limited#
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
Fisherman

surely people are wondering if Jehovah would choose someone like that to be the 144000
People shouldn’t wonder since anointed christians in the first century did worse. Up to God whom he chooses.
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
Fisherman

I didn’t “know” that at all.
John 8:32