Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and associate with an organization with headquarters in New York and work hard for your gift of salvation.
I answered that in my previous posts.
You have not made a reply to my answer. But no pressure, you have a right to keep asserting your view.
Fisherman
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman inobviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman inobviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
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Perhaps to your satisfaction.
You don’t need to like the answer, only need to challenge it not by repeating the same assertions over and over again. As if by filibuster would validate you belief by reasserting your position and not by rebuttal.
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The day the music died.
by Fisherman inis there any new music or singers whatsoever nowadays or just junk?
and how about movies, besides documentaries is there anything at all, any movie at all, any new actor at all that that has any real worth to watch and enjoy or is it all a boring waste of time.
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There are tons of famous songs and actors and singers that are known nationally and some internationally from the 1900s. Now, nothing. -
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The day the music died.
by Fisherman inis there any new music or singers whatsoever nowadays or just junk?
and how about movies, besides documentaries is there anything at all, any movie at all, any new actor at all that that has any real worth to watch and enjoy or is it all a boring waste of time.
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Movie and music studios aren't looking for great sounds and great stories. They have corporate formulas.
Zero actors and singers too,
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman inobviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
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If that's the case, why are you "working hard for the reward of eternal life"?
I’ve already answered that.
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The day the music died.
by Fisherman inis there any new music or singers whatsoever nowadays or just junk?
and how about movies, besides documentaries is there anything at all, any movie at all, any new actor at all that that has any real worth to watch and enjoy or is it all a boring waste of time.
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we remember the good stuff and forget that 90% was always crap.
I agree that we didn’t like every song and movie decades ago but we respected it. And we could look forward to new hits and bands and great movies all the time. —Its all over now. Unless you can point to something of worth nowdays.
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman inobviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
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Hi Van,
I cited the verses instead of quoting them. I also explained and responded to your argument.
WT never teaches that salvation can be earned by works of “theocratic services”. Such works are like sacrifices to God like that of the early christians helping people with the good news and knowledge of the Messianic kingdom but such works do not replace obedience and the practice of love (although theocratic service and works is evidence of love). —The verses in Mark I cited explain the standard doe salvation and christian living is an application of the that standard to the higher degree that Jesus enjoined on christians on the sermon on the mount. We @ JW practice christianity by our interpretation of Bible principles and also by our theocratic works. But ultimately salvation is a free gift of God that we can never merit.
“Salvation we OWE to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman inobviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
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Van all you are doing is reasserting your one sided view without considering the verses referenced in my posts.
I already responded to your belief that once you are saved that you cannot lose that salvation or need to do anything for it.— Unless you turn to doing evil which your explanation would be not being saved to begin with. I am not going to repeat my same argument again or flood this post by quoting the entire Bible here.
Kindly,F
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman inobviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
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Van,
One or 2 verses don’t invalidate the rest of the Bible.
While it is clear that salvation extrinsically cannot be earned or bought, the Bible also says that not everyone will be saved and that effort and obedience is still required— but even with all that work, salvation is still a gift that no person merits.
An example of vision to describe an object is the six blind men and the elephant each focusing on only one aspect of the subject. Another example is looking only at one side of a coin while a coin is 3 dimensional. One needs to to view subjects not only in perspective but to see top, bottom and sides to really define and understand a subject and not focus on one or two scriptures and totally not look at and factor in the rest of the Bible.
Respectfully, F.
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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.
by Fisherman inobviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
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no matter how hard they work for the “organisation”
You didn't read the verses I referenced.
you can never be sure.
That is what faith is all about: The ransom will cover our sins. —But Satan CAN also overreach us as he did with Judas so at least some effort is required.